Pictures: The Art of Polishing Paint Advanced Detailing Classes

[Mike Phillips]

Pictures: The Art of Polishing Paint Advanced Detailing Classes (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/pictures-sunday-detailing-102-advanced-class/60954-pictures-art-polishing-paint-advanced-detailing-classes.html)

These classes are totally focused on the art of polishing paint. The focus is on all aspects of polishing paint from doing production work to maximize profits to show car paint polishing to how to wetsand by hand and wetsand by machine for a true show car finish. These classes must be reserved in advance for small, private groups. If you want to be placed on my contact list for the next advanced class, send an e-mail to:

Mike.Phillips@Autogeek.net (Mike.Phillips@Autogeek.net)



First up will be this classic 1959 Chevrolet Impala. This car has been repainted using a basecoat/clearcoat paint system so it has the same type of paint modern cars come with from the factory.


1959 Chevrolet Impala - Remove Swirls & Scratches
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:)

[Mike Phillips]

When it come to working on antiques, classics and streetrod here at Autogeek, I teach people to never wash these types of cars but instead, use either a rinseless car wash or a waterless car wash with the best option being the waterless car wash.

The reason for using a waterless car wash is to reduce the amount of water being introduced to the car where it can get into places where it can be a rust issue.

We started the 1959 Impala project by wiping the paint clean using Detailer's Waterless Auto Wash Concentrate (http://www.autogeek.net/dp-waterless-wash-concentrate.html) poured off into Kwazar Mercury Pro 33 ounce bottles (http://www.autogeek.net/liter-sprayer.html) because they will lay down a lot of product very fast which is what you want when doing a waterless wash.

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Exterior Paint Inspection and Evaluation

Next up I introduced the guy to,

The Baggie Test - How to inspect for above surface bonded contaminants (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/27967-baggie-test-how-inspect-above-surface-bonded-contaminants.html)

Not only so they can get an accurate feel for the true condition of the paint but to also use to market their business and educate their customers.

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Even the sides of the car were contaiminated...

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Speedy Prep Surface Towel to Decontaminate the Paint
To remove the above surface bonded contaminants, we used the Speedy Prep Surface Towels with Detailer's Universal Clay Lube (http://www.autogeek.net/speedy-surface-prep-towel-combo.html).

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How to tape-off and cover up a car before detailing

Before we stared machine polishing, I pointed out to the guys that you almost always find compound and polish splatter down inside the fresh air intake grill because this area was not taped-off.

I teach my students to always cover this area and to also tape-off any panel edges and raised body lines, especially if you're going to be doing major correction work and especially wetsanding.

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Removing Swirls and Scratches

Next up, the guys are going to get some hands-on time behind the pneumatic 15 and pneumatic Mini Polishers (http://www.autogeek.net/rupes-polishers.html).
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Rupes 21
Giving Mike a little hands-on training on arm speed, pattern and downward pressure, this is the first time Mike had ever used the Rupes 21 polisher...

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Rupes 15
Working with Derek and the Rupes 15 Polisher...

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Both guys have experience using Porter Cable and Griot's Garage DA Polishers and picked up really quick on how to use the Rupes polishers...

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:)

[Mike Phillips]

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For getting the thin panel between the hood and the stainless steel trim we used the Rupes LHR75 3 Inch Pneumatic Random Orbital Polisher (http://www.autogeek.net/rupes-lhr75-pneumatic-polisher.html)

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:)

[Mike Phillips]

While Mike and Derek were working the Rupes polishers up front, I shared with Dan how to use the Flex 3401 with the Wolfgang Twins and LC Hybrid pads.

Showing Dan how to pick up a bead of product using a tweaked version of the 10 @ 10 technique used with rotary buffers. Since the pad rotates counterclockwise, (opposite a rotary buffer), it works best to pick up a bead of product using the 10 @ 3 position.

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A little hands-on training to show how much downward pressure and arm speed for moving the tool over the surface.

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Here we're inspecting the results using the Brinkmann Swirl Finder Light and it's pretty easy to see the swirls and scratches are now gone and what remains is swirl-free finish.

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Derek and Mike finished the front so now they're testing out the Flex 3401's for the first time and now they can compare how these tools work as compared to the Rupes they just used on the front clip.

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:)

[Chris@AutoCleanse]

Pictures look great, how many guys did you have total in the class, I know you said it was going to be small.

[57BORNTORUN]

I saw the 55 Ford on Sunday at a car show.It came out great.

[bmwgeek]

Would be interesting to hear their comments on the flex 3401 and rupes.

[Mike Phillips]

Pictures look great, how many guys did you have total in the class, I know you said it was going to be small.


My new advanced classes are limited to 8 or less people. We had five people signed up and two late minute cancellations due to travel arrangements. I have another advanced class in the works with more cool cars and a focus on the art of polishing paint.

Anyone reading this that wants to be notified for my next advanced class, these are $1000.00 for the two-day weekend class and you need to send me an e-mail and I'll put you on my contact list for these classes.

mike.phillips@autogeek.net (mike.phillips@autogeek.net)





I saw the 55 Ford on Sunday at a car show. It came out great.



Good to hear, that was a fun car to work on and it's also the car I did the Rupes Polisher Time Lapse video with...

Rupes Polisher Time Lapse Video - 1955 Ford Crown Victoria (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/60921-rupes-polisher-time-lapse-video-1955-ford-crown-victoria.html)


Here's the time-lapse video Yancy took for me as I buffed this classic out from start to finish...





RUPES 21ES Vs 15 ES time comparison Time lapse -...


On the passenger side I used the Rupes 21 and on the driver's side I used the Rupes 15. There was about a 20 minute time savings using the larger pad, larger stroke machine over the smaller pad, smaller stroke machine but my opinion is that for most body panel designs on modern cars the 6" pad will be a better match.

This tool definitely has a lot more correction ability plus power over a traditional DA Polisher like the Porter Cable 7424XP.

I did find that when buffing a curved panel, either concave or convex, the uneven pressure applied to the face of the pad will slow down and even stop pad rotation. The key is to focus on the panel and keep the pad as flat as possible to the surface.


Came out nice...

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Would be interesting to hear their comments on the flex 3401 and rupes.




Interestingly, none of the guys that attended this class are members of this forum... yet. I've asked them to join and when they return home and get caught up I'm confident you'll see them chime in on this thread with their thoughts on my advanced class.


:)

[Mike Phillips]

After completely buffing out this Impala using both the Rupes System and the Flex 3401 with Wolfgang products, there were still a few RIDS in the hood as well as orange peel.

Because the hood is a dark color and what I call a "Gloss Panel", that is a panel that gets a lot of attention, I decided to use the hood to train the guys on how to machine sand using a very fine grit sanding disc and then the art of using a rotary buffer to remove their sanding mark and finish out hologram free.

Training on this 1959 Impala would perfectly prepare them for the next car, wetsanding the new paint job on the 1964 Chevelle Malibu.


Here's the Porter Cable with 3M #5000 Grit Sanding Disc. The cut is so light it's PERFECT for anyone brand new to machine wetsanding, especially on a restored classic car.

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I demonstrated the technique on the driver's side...
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Then taught the guys using the passenger side...

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PERFECT

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Edging
Now the guys are using 3" wool pads with Meguiar's M100 Pro Speed Compound to surgically remove their sanding marks around the perimeter of the panel. I call this edging.

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Major on the majors
Now that the perimeter of this panel has been edged, it's time to knock out the major portion of the panel, I call this majoring on the majors.

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After a little hands-on training the guys have it down, they thought they wouldn't like using rotary buffers and found out they really like using them...

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Grit Guard Universal Pad Washer
I stress working clean in all my classes and this is especially true when working wetsanding, cutting and buffing a show car. Here's the guys using a pad washer to remove the spent compound and abraded paint.

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Back to the task at hand removing 100% of the sanding marks as that's my criteria.

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Next up... foam pad polishing and foam pad jewelling...


:)

[Mike Phillips]

As you read through this thread and look at all the pictures, keep in mind...

This is just ONE of the cars these guys learned on. We still have two more cars to go through...


:)

[Mike@DedicatedPerfection]

As you read through this thread and look at all the pictures, keep in mind...

This is just ONE of the cars these guys learned on. We still have two more cars to go through...


:)

Wow Mike. Two more cars?

I love to follow along to see whats going on in the AG garage.

[feslope]

I saw the 55 Ford on Sunday at a car show.It came out great.I saw that car at AG just before the owner picked it up, as I commented in another thread every square inch of that car was perfect. Its Mike's attention to details that makes for the "Perfect Detail" :Picture:

[Mike Phillips]

I love to follow along to see whats going on in the AG garage.




And I like sharing what we do here. I can't actually think of any other place where the cars and the work done by the students is actually shared and documented so thoroughly. It takes some time to to get the pictures onto the forum but once they are up it's a living history that showcases what we do here.

To me its important to show just how much a person gets to learn when they attend these classes plus all the cool tools they get to work with and the cool cars they get to work on, so they can not only learn how to use the tools in a real-world situation but in some cases figure out which tools are a best fit for their needs.


For anyone reading through this thread that would like to attend one of these classes, here's the link to register for my next Detailing Boot Camp Class.


Registration
The two day detailing bootcamp class is $750.00 and this includes a $200.00 merchandise credit at Autogeek.net

Click here to register online (http://www.autogeek.net/detailing-boot-camp.html)



And here's a link to a thread for it on this forum with testimonies from people that have attended my classes in the past.


Mike Phillips's Detailing Boot Camp May 4th & 5th (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/sign-up-detailing-bootcamp-class-2-day-class/61208-mike-phillips-s-detailing-boot-camp-may-4th-5th.html)


My next and last Detailing Boot Camp Class for 2013 will be September 28th and 29th.

You can register for the September class by calling customer care at,

1-800-869-3011


More pictures today...


:)

[Mike Phillips]

Continued....


Here's Mike and Derek machine polishing to remove any holograms from the compound and wool fibers from the cutting pad using Lake Country 6.5" CCS Black Foam Polishing Pads with Meguiar's M205

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Jewelling
After removing the holograms, here's Mike and Derek jewelling the paint using Menzerna SF 4500 with some beta 6.5" Flat Gold Jewelling Pads on 600 RPM on Flex PE14's. I had the guys open the hood and wipe off all trace residues from the compounding and polishing steps as well as around all the trim because the thing I see everyone leave out when they talk about jewelling is the importance of working clean.

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Machine Apply Wolfgang Fuzion
Next up we're going to machine apply Wolfgang Fuzion using soft blue Lake Country 5.5" Waxing Pads on DA Polishers. This really lays down an thin, uniform layer of wax. After the guys machine wax the entire car then we'll carefully wipe the wax off...

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Microfiber Gloves
Every time I bring out the microfiber gloves for all our high end work and AFTER everyone uses them for the first time they see how well they really do work.

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Next up... the beauty shots!


:D

[Mike Phillips]

Here's the beauty shots...


Augeek.net.... where all the car action's at...

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Look Ma... no holograms...
This is after a complete machine wetsanding, followed by compounding with a rotary buffer and wool pads, followed by a rotary buffer with polishing pads followed by a rotary buffer for the jewelling step and.... it was done by absolute newbies to wetsanding and rotary buffers.


Hologram-free finish in full sun...
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This was done with the Flex 3401 so of course it's completely hologram-free too...

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The Art of Polishing Paint

I present a 1959 Chevrolet Impala sanded and buffed by the students of my advanced "Art of Polishing Paint" class...

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The low down front grill shot...

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Iconic Cat Eye Tail Lights...

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All the paint around the lights, license plate and under the wing was hand waxed...

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From left to right...

Trey, Mike and Derek...
(not pictured Dan)

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http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1768/The_Art_of_Polishing_Paint_1Class_155.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1768/The_Art_of_Polishing_Paint_1Class_155c.jpg



Nice work guys for your first time sanding and using rotary buffers.


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