Radarryan
02-18-2013, 12:28 AM
Well, let's just say that there were a series of disasters that happened this week while I was detailing my 2013 Porsche 911 Carbriolet. I will give a rundown of what I did, and then hopefully the forum can chime in and let me know what I did wrong so myself and others may learn.
First, I washed the car using proper methods and a foam gun. No problems yet and the car looked fantastic. I should note that I was performing a full detail to prepare the surface for Opti-Coat 2.0.
After the washing I decided I was going to clay bar the car because there were some (not a lot) embedded surface contaminants. This is where the problems started...
First, I am no stranger to claying - I've been doing it for close to 8 or more years. This time, however, the clay marred the paint. I was using Meguiar's OTC clay bar kit, so I know the clay was very gentile. I started by doing a small section on the hood of the 911 where the clear bra is (the clear bra is on the entire front clip.) Sure enough, after a small section was complete, there was significant marring done. I was using specific clay lube, but I also tried with quick detailer and a waterless wash. Same result. At first, I thought, "well, maybe it's the PPF." So I did it on another panel and there was marring as well. My thought is that maybe Porsche paint is super soft (my car is flat black) and I will no longer be able to clay without risk of marring. Is this the case?
After this I decided that I would stop claying and start polishing the mars out of the paint. My first step was using Optimum Finish Polish with a grey finishing pad but this was not strong enough. Then I pulled out the Optimum Polish II with a white polish pad, but this instilled more swirls and holograms into the clear bra and bare paint. Needless to say, I was freaking out.
I found that using the Polish II with the white finish pad caused some swirls to be instilled in parts of paint. Other parts finished nicely, but something happened, either to the pad or something, to cause these defects. I have watched countless videos and feel like my form is not the issue, though others may disagree.
I followed up the entire car with Polish II and Finish, getting most everything out. The clear bra, though, was a different story. Every time I tried to polish it out, it seemed like it made it worse. This is not a cheap clear bra, it is supposed to be 3M brand and can be polished just like a clear. The entire front clip cost me $1,500 (it was done by the dealer prior to me taking delivery.)
I then decided to cut my losses and apply the opti-coat 2.0 to the surfaces. It looks great in the sun, however when I put the halogen on it in the garage, you can see some scratches/swirls. Doesn't look bad at all, in fact my dad said he never has seen a car so shiny, but I know they're there, which bums me out. So I've sealed in some swirls/scratches. Maybe one day I'll polish everything out again, and try over but right now I'm just angry!
Opti-Coat was super easy to use! Anyone who is hesitant because they are scared that it is hard to apply should not think that way.
I'm using the technique that Mike has shown us, including priming the pad, using ample speed, ample product, etc. Maybe my paint is so super soft that even my non-aggressive steps were too much? Please give me any and all feedback.
Thanks and happy detailing (at least happier than mine!)
First, I washed the car using proper methods and a foam gun. No problems yet and the car looked fantastic. I should note that I was performing a full detail to prepare the surface for Opti-Coat 2.0.
After the washing I decided I was going to clay bar the car because there were some (not a lot) embedded surface contaminants. This is where the problems started...
First, I am no stranger to claying - I've been doing it for close to 8 or more years. This time, however, the clay marred the paint. I was using Meguiar's OTC clay bar kit, so I know the clay was very gentile. I started by doing a small section on the hood of the 911 where the clear bra is (the clear bra is on the entire front clip.) Sure enough, after a small section was complete, there was significant marring done. I was using specific clay lube, but I also tried with quick detailer and a waterless wash. Same result. At first, I thought, "well, maybe it's the PPF." So I did it on another panel and there was marring as well. My thought is that maybe Porsche paint is super soft (my car is flat black) and I will no longer be able to clay without risk of marring. Is this the case?
After this I decided that I would stop claying and start polishing the mars out of the paint. My first step was using Optimum Finish Polish with a grey finishing pad but this was not strong enough. Then I pulled out the Optimum Polish II with a white polish pad, but this instilled more swirls and holograms into the clear bra and bare paint. Needless to say, I was freaking out.
I found that using the Polish II with the white finish pad caused some swirls to be instilled in parts of paint. Other parts finished nicely, but something happened, either to the pad or something, to cause these defects. I have watched countless videos and feel like my form is not the issue, though others may disagree.
I followed up the entire car with Polish II and Finish, getting most everything out. The clear bra, though, was a different story. Every time I tried to polish it out, it seemed like it made it worse. This is not a cheap clear bra, it is supposed to be 3M brand and can be polished just like a clear. The entire front clip cost me $1,500 (it was done by the dealer prior to me taking delivery.)
I then decided to cut my losses and apply the opti-coat 2.0 to the surfaces. It looks great in the sun, however when I put the halogen on it in the garage, you can see some scratches/swirls. Doesn't look bad at all, in fact my dad said he never has seen a car so shiny, but I know they're there, which bums me out. So I've sealed in some swirls/scratches. Maybe one day I'll polish everything out again, and try over but right now I'm just angry!
Opti-Coat was super easy to use! Anyone who is hesitant because they are scared that it is hard to apply should not think that way.
I'm using the technique that Mike has shown us, including priming the pad, using ample speed, ample product, etc. Maybe my paint is so super soft that even my non-aggressive steps were too much? Please give me any and all feedback.
Thanks and happy detailing (at least happier than mine!)