Is BMW black considered hard or soft?

[Hammondc]

I am helping a friend do his wife's Jet Black (non-metallic) Z4. It is a 2010. not a horrible condition but has its share of dealer installed scratches. I'd say the paint is a 6/10.

I will either do Megs 105/205 or the Blackfire twins via PC. Not sure which one yet. Still reading up on that.

[CM8 6MT]

I am helping a friend do his wife's Jet Black (non-metallic) Z4. It is a 2010. not a horrible condition but has its share of dealer installed scratches. I'd say the paint is a 6/10.

I will either do Megs 105/205 or the Blackfire twins via PC. Not sure which one yet. Still reading up on that.

BMW paint systems for the most part are considered relatively hard. With that being said, YOU need to determine if the car your working on infront of you has hard/soft paint.

A perfect example is when I was working on a customers 2003 Nissan Frontier, soft paint right? Wrong, it was ROCK HARD. The owner never knew the truck had been re-painted before.

This is why its recommended you do a Test-Spot. This allows you to find out for yourself about what type of paint you have, and what products will dial in your desired results. 105/205 might not work for you, you have to do a test spot first before you begin to descide what products your going to use for the rest of the paint.

[Mike@DedicatedPerfection]

BMW black paint is different from models and years. Both of my 3 series are the same color and code 668 jet black. My 07 is a lot softer than my 11. It will really come done to what your test spot reveals.

[Nick McKees37]

My 07 is a lot softer than my 11.

...and this is why you'll often hear me say: have a good selection of products on hand. :dblthumb2:

If you plan on polishing more than one vehicle and you can't decide between two different approaches (ala: M105/M205 or Blackfire Duo) get both.

I feel confident saying that anyone equipped with M105/M205 and Blackfire SRC Compound and SRC Finishing Polish will be well equipped to tackle just about any paint system - hard or soft. :xyxthumbs:

[CM8 6MT]

^^^ Agree

[swanicyouth]

I use Wolfgang Twins on my 08 Black Sapphire Metallic M Roadster with great success. I also have found following up Menzerna SF 4500 really makes the paint pop.

Of course my BMW was painted in Spartanburg SC USA and that BMW was painted in Germany - but it's still a great combo.

[Pureshine]

Just do a test spot with least aggressive pad first and go from there.

[bmwohio]

I just got done with my 03 525i this past weekend and it was pretty tough to deal with....after the 105 there were still fine swirls in the paint and it wasn't until after the 205 and Menz 4500 that it really came out nice. Not looking forward to my M3....

Here's my thread for results and products used --> http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-n-shine/59434-2003-bmw-525i-sport-paint-correction.html

Good luck!

[Mike@DedicatedPerfection]

This was on the hard side as well but my 3401 and FG400/orange hybrid took care of 90% of it.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-n-shine/59436-2010-black-335i-one-step-correction.html

[burkorobe]

BMW black paint is different from models and years.

[Hammondc]

Good info here. I wish I could get both pairs of product. Unfortunately, I just do not detail as much as I used to and do not need all of that. I really do not think I'll have many opportunities for the M105. It just seems to be hella aggressive.

[Hammondc]

This was on the hard side as well but my 3401 and FG400/orange hybrid took care of 90% of it.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-n-shine/59436-2010-black-335i-one-step-correction.html

May take another look at FG400.

[CM8 6MT]

Good info here. I wish I could get both pairs of product. Unfortunately, I just do not detail as much as I used to and do not need all of that. I really do not think I'll have many opportunities for the M105. It just seems to be hella aggressive.

It is very aggresive, however it does finish down really nice. You can modify its aggresive level by using different types of pads. Do a test spot first, that way you can see what product(starting from least aggresive) will give you the results your looking for.

[Johny B]

BMW black paint is different from models and years.

+1

[Mike@DedicatedPerfection]

May take another look at FG400.

It is really incredible the way that FG400 can finish for being a pretty aggressive compound.