Okay here goes, first time with Griots polisher

[chosenone]

So I have a black used 2009 Cadillac CTSV. Paint has been taken care of but is my daily driver. It has minor swirls and little imperfections along quarters from winter months. I have been preparing to attack the car with the right tools. So here is my game plan. I am going to use the Original Forum Favorite Kit.
Wolfgangs swirl remover 3.0
Klasse All-in-0ne
Klasse High gloss sealant glaze
Pinnacle Souveran Paste Wax


Step 1 - Using Griots DA polisher and an orange Lake Country 6.5 pad will apply Wolfgang swirl remover 3.0. Remove with microfiber towels

Step 2 - Using Griots DA polisher and a white Lake Country 6.5 pad will apply Klass All-in-one and remove with microfiber towels

Step 3 - Using Griots DA polisher and a blue Lake Country 6.5 pad will apply Klasse High gloss sealant glaze and remove with microfiber towels

Step 4 - after letting Klass High gloss cure for 8-12 hours will a use a Griots DA polisher and a red Lake Country 6.5 pad to apply Pinnacle Souveran Paste wax and remove with microfiber towels.

I also purchased a 3" dual back plate and some of the same pads mentioned above for the small awkard panels.

So any comments or suggestions would be appreciated. I have not done this before and advice is always wanted. I have purchased everything so far except for the Griots DA polisher, still hoping I get one in the giveaway.

[Mike Phillips]

Step 1 - Using Griots DA polisher and an orange Lake Country 6.5 pad will apply Wolfgang swirl remover 3.0. Remove with microfiber towels



Read the links below and watch the videos...

click the link below and watch the videos...

Video: Mark your backing plate to make it easy to see pad rotation (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-car-garage-how-videos/49489-video-mark-your-backing-plate-make-easy-see-pad-rotation.html)



In this video I demonstrate how the basics of how to use a DA Polisher for Dave Bowman of Crank & Chrome fame as well as Shade Tree Mechanic and Two Guys Garage. After this segment, a few weeks later he purchased everything I demonstrated and buffed out his Corvette. In the video I also shove the pad against my hand to show how safe these types of tool are...





Removing Swirls and Oxidation By Machine

How To Remove Oxidation by Machine Polishing with...






Step 2 - Using Griots DA polisher and a white Lake Country 6.5 pad will apply Klass All-in-one and remove with microfiber towels.

That will work... the KAIO is a one-step cleaner/wax, technically a cleaner/sealant. Might be easier to wipe off if you let it dry first.

[QUOTE=chosenone;789913]

Step 3 - Using Griots DA polisher and a blue Lake Country 6.5 pad will apply Klasse High gloss sealant glaze and remove with microfiber towels



I don't know anyone that applies SG by machine. I wrote an article just for this product, I would highly recommend reading the article and following the recommendation for your first time with this product.


The below is also from my article list...

A tip for working with waxes, paint sealants or coatings that are new to you (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/tricks-tips-techniques/37279-tip-working-waxes-paint-sealants-coatings-new-you.html)







Step 4 - after letting Klass High gloss cure for 8-12 hours will a use a Griots DA polisher and a red Lake Country 6.5 pad to apply Pinnacle Souveran Paste wax and remove with microfiber towels.



Use speed 3-4 for this step...




I'd also take a look at these,


How To Do a Test Spot (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/50162-how-do-test-spot.html)
(and why it's so important)


I recommend everyone read this article first - before you need to troubleshoot :)

DA Polisher Trouble Shooting Guide (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/37769-da-polisher-trouble-shooting-guide.html)


Factors that can cause a pad to stop rotating on a DA Polisher (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/tricks-tips-techniques/48955-factors-can-cause-pad-stop-rotating-da-polisher.html)

Video: How-To do a "Section Pass" when Machine Polishing with a DA Polisher (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-videos/24074-video-how-do-section-pass-when-machine-buffing.html)


The Compression Washer (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/48913-compression-washer.html)

How to prime a foam pad when using a DA Polisher (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/35292-how-prime-foam-pad-when-using-da-polisher.html)


Wet Buffing Technique (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/tricks-tips-techniques/36237-wet-buffing-technique.html)

DA Polisher Articles - Help for Newbies to Machine Polishing (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/questions-about-porter-cable-7424xp-7424-7336-griot-s-meguiar-s-dual-action-polishers/38399-da-polisher-articles-help-newbies-machine-polishing.html) <-- Walks you through detailing your car...


Might as well read this and then throw the handle away...

Handle? Or No Handle? - Using DA Polishers Without the Handle (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/questions-about-porter-cable-7424xp-7424-7336-griot-s-meguiar-s-dual-action-polishers/30822-handle-no-handle-using-da-polishers-without-handle.html)


You can wax by machine too...

How-to Machine Apply Wax using a DA Polisher (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/pinnacle-wax/28651-how-machine-apply-wax-using-da-polisher.html)

How to Apply Dodo Pastes Waxes by Machine (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/25737-how-apply-dodo-pastes-waxes-machine.html)

How To Apply Mothers California Gold Carnauba Paste Wax by Machine (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/25725-how-apply-mothers-california-gold-pure-carnauba-paste-machine.html)



Feel your paint after washing and drying but before machine polishing...

The Baggie Test - How to inspect for above surface bonded contaminants (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/27967-baggie-test-how-inspect-above-surface-bonded-contaminants.html)


The above will get you going in the right direction...


Before you start, read through this, all the tips and techniques apply to both a brand new car or an older car...


How To Detail Your Brand New Car by Mike Phillips (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/54451-how-detail-your-brand-new-car-mike-phillips.html)


:)

[Mike Phillips]

There's a LOT of tips and techniques shared in the below video. In the video we use a Porter Cable but everything we show applies to any DA Polishers.





How to remove shallow RIDS and how to machine
apply both a paint sealant and a finishing wax

How to remove shallow RIDS and how to machine...



This how-to video also covers,



RIDS - Random Isolated Deeper Scratches
Removing watches and any jewelery
Using a DA Polisher without the handle
Placing cord over shoulder
Priming the pad on a DA Polisher
Speed settings for removing isolated defects
Downward pressure needed for removing isolated defects
How to clean a pad on the fly
Where and why to mark your backing plate with a black mark
Rotating the body of the tool to keep the pad flat to a panel
Why to allow the pad to stop spinning before lifting the pad off the paint
How to swap backing plates from a 3.5" to a 5"
Machine waxing using 5.5" Hydro-Tech Crimson Finishing pads with Menzerna Power Lock
The "Kissing the Finish" Technique
How to do the Swipe Test to check if a wax or paint sealant is dry
How to remove dried paint sealant using a microfiber bonnet on a dry pad on a DA Polisher
How to clean a microfiber bonnet on the fly with your fingernails
How to apply a paste wax by machine - Souveran Paste Wax
How to carefully wipe a WOWO wax off by hand using Microfiber Gloves and plush Microfiber Towels
How and why to fold a microfiber towel 4-ways to wipe wax off
How to break-open a coat of wax and then creep out to carefully wipe off a coating of wax
How to do the "Final Wipe"


:)

[chosenone]

Great info Mike, thanks so much. I am waiting for the nicer weather to come to me before I dive in so I can do some reading for sure. What is the main reason for not using the machine for the SG? I read the article about spreading a thin layer, can that not be acheived with machine or do you just not get optimum results with a machine?

[Caleb@ImpeccableImage]

Lots of good info in here

[chosenone]

I was wondering what people do after they have waited for the sealant to cure for 8 hours or more than likely a full day, do you have to use detailer spray and wipe the car back down. For the everyday person who is just cleaning there own car at home in their garage its not going to be completely dust free. Would you cover the car with car cover after the first few steps or would you wipe the car down when you come back to put your last wax down?

[Y2KSVT]

Just to be clear, when sealant is said to be curing, it has already been wiped off, and the cure time is how long it takes to fully adhere to the paint. So, once you've applied the sealant and then wiped it off, the curing begins. You don't need to do anything at that point unless you want to top it with a wax.

[SON1C]

I was wondering what people do after they have waited for the sealant to cure for 8 hours or more than likely a full day, do you have to use detailer spray and wipe the car back down. For the everyday person who is just cleaning there own car at home in their garage its not going to be completely dust free. Would you cover the car with car cover after the first few steps or would you wipe the car down when you come back to put your last wax down?

i don't let anything sit on paint for more than 30 minutes, including bfwdps
usually i'm not worried, unless its petes, you should be terrified after 5-10 minutes lol, IME there's been no benefits or need for it to cure more than 30 minutes, although it does continue to cure and "cross-link" etc once buffed off, thats why I never top until atleast 30 minutes after buff off
just some imo ime input

[Klasse Act]

I have never used my GG 6" to apply sealant, especially KSG and IMHO should be applied by hand for one reason, its a WOWO and when using your machine you've gotta put it down every section, real annoying!

KSG should be applied the following way and this is coming from someone who's been using it since 2005:

-get a bowl and pour some water in there
-pour your KSG in a spray bottle (I use the 4 oz GG bottles)
-take your cotton applicator and dunk it in the bowl
-wring out the cotton applicator so its just damp
-spray 1-2 sprays across the damp applcator (less is more here)
-do a section at a time, wipe on and wipe it in good and get good coverage
-wipe off right away
-along the way, when the damp applicator isn't so damp or fresh, dunk it back in the bowl and wring out.

*apply a 2nd coat 12 hrs later...HUGE RESULTS!*

This is just for the KSG step, after polishing the paint out and using KAIO, which not only cleans anything left over from the polishing but does give you a little protection and a great base for KSG.

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[chosenone]

Great info guys, really are helping out a lot. Being a newb I thought I had the process all laid out, thanks for the tweaking. So Let me change it up:

Step 1 - Using Griots DA polisher and an orange Lake Country 6.5 pad will apply Wolfgang swirl remover 3.0. Remove with microfiber towels

Step 2 - Using Griots DA polisher and a white Lake Country 6.5 pad will apply Klass All-in-one and remove with microfiber towels

Step 3 - By hand will apply Klasse High gloss sealant glaze and remove with microfiber towels. WOPO then let it cure for atleast 30 minutes or longer and then move onto step 4.

Step 4 - after letting Klass High gloss cure for 8-12 hours will a use a Griots DA polisher and a red Lake Country 6.5 pad to apply Pinnacle Souveran Paste wax and remove with microfiber towels.

Feel free to keep on tweaking the plan. I will more than likely work on the first 3 steps all day in my garage and then start step 4 the following day. Do I need to cover my car to keep it dust free, or quick detail and wipe off with microfiber or what?

[chosenone]

Let me add another questions, The Klasse All in one talks about removing swirls and light haze. Is the Wolfgang swirl remover step worth doing for a black vehicle that basically just has swirls from the previous owner washing the car. I would rather not spend 30.00 and a lot of time and a step that is the same.

[chosenone]

Also was just reading up on the proper instructions from Klasse One to apply to car. As you can see below they say to apply to the whole car wait 30 minutes and then remove. A lot of the advice I have been reading says it is WOWO. Im a bit confused now. Here are the steps listed

Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze Hand Application
Apply Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze just like you applied the All-In-One. With a damp (NOT WET) applicator pad or towel, spread a nickel-sized amount of Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze onto the surface in long, overlapping strokes. Go over each area a few times to ensure even, thin coverage. Remember that Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze is only for painted surfaces.

Apply glaze to the entire vehicle before you wipe off residue. Allow Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze to set for at least 30 minutes or until it is completely dry. Buff with a soft, microfiber towel for the best results.
Feel free to apply as many coats as you like, buffing each coat off before applying another coat. Wait 8-12 hours between coats. Multiple coats of Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze will not yellow or discolor your vehicle.
Tip: If Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze streaks, you’ve used too much product. Use a clean microfiber towel to wipe the area to remove residue.
Tip: Let Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze set on your vehicle for as long as possible. At least 8 to 12 hours is recommended before applying another coat. Remember, the best things come to those who wait!

[Klasse Act]

Don't leave KSG on for 30 minutes and then remove or did you mean apply wax after 30 minutes? I would suggest putting nothing ontop of KSG for 12 hrs, if they say to wait that amount of time to apply another coat of KSG then it would make sense to wait that long for a nuba topper....anyone else agree?

Glad to see Klasse being used here. Although I have/use other products I still like Klasse!

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[chosenone]

The directions from Klasse say to do entire car before removing, but then it says to leave on for 30 minutes or until it drys.

Klasse usa ,Klasse Application Guide, How to apply Klasse AIO, Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze, All-in-one, klasse all-in-one (http://www.autogeek.net/klasse-usa.html)

[primo spaghetti]

KSG is tough to remove if put on too thisk as Kalss Act has said.

ive applied with my DA and a blue LC pad...i used the Klasse instructions of put on the whole vehicle, wait 30 min and remove, and it was tough...i sprayed the KSG as well, but it was still ahrd to remove, but it can be done by spritzing more KSG, or a QD to aid in removal...

i have also applied as Klasse Act has said and that is the best way IMO. a light mist applied by hand and wipe off..but do the second coat for sure...then if you really feel the need use your "topper" of choice.