Anyone ever heard of pink wax

[NAVYJOE11]

Someone talked me into buying it about 6 months ago, a little before i found this awesome site and got educated. Just curious as to whether anyone has tried it or not or even heard of it. I used it shortly after i got it but is was before i had the fever and i didnt pay any mind just knew wax was good for the car :xyxthumbs:. Please forgive me if this against forum rules im still learning the ropes. Not trying to promote a product just curious as to any experience anyone may have with it.

[RoadRageDetail]

I don't understand how a protective product can "clean" or "remove swirl marks" and yet be labeled as "non abrasive."

But hey, a little money buys a lot - and if you like it, who am I to say you're wrong?

[NAVYJOE11]

HAHA.. I completely understand where your coming form. doesnt make any since to me. Maybe it did before i morphed into a geek head! just curious as if anyone elses has heard or tried it

[Dr Oldz]

I have..... It is a cleaner wax that has some capability to fill and not remove swirl marks. Not terrible stuff IMO but there are better cleaner waxes available here at AG.

[Shane731]

Thought you were talking about this stuff when I saw the title:

Finish Kare 2685 Pink Wax, car wax, polymer carnauba wax, auto wax, finish care (http://www.autogeek.net/finish-kare-2685-wax.html)

Haven't used either one though.

[Mike Phillips]

I don't understand how a protective product can "clean" or "remove swirl marks" and yet be labeled as "non abrasive."




Actually, the label states it eliminates swirl marks.


The word eliminates can be used in a number of ways, it can mean removes by abrading or like Jim posted, it can cause the swirl marks to look eliminated by filling them in.


Most products sold as a cure all for everything by their very nature must be a cleaner/wax. That's not a bad thing as most people only want to do two things,

Wash their car
Wax their car


I explain why most waxes, at least most "consumer" type waxes are cleaner/waxes here,


The Difference Between a Cleaner/Wax and a Finishing Wax (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/23263-difference-between-cleaner-wax-finishing-wax.html)
Subtitle: How To Choose The Right Wax or Paint Sealant for your Detailing Project


Here's a portion of the above article,





Cleaner/Wax or Cleaner/Sealant
Now a cleaner/wax is just that, the formula will contain a blend of chemical cleaners and often times some type of abrasives, either diminishing or non-diminishing.

Together the chemical cleaners and the abrasives will remove oxidation and road grime from the surface which will restore clarity and richness of color. At the same time they’ll leave behind a layer of protection to help lock in the shine and of course protect the paint from the elements.

When you go to your local auto parts stores, most of the retail waxes on the shelves do in fact fall into the cleaner/wax category as they are targeted at the average person and the average person is driving what we call a Daily Driver, that is the car they drive back and forth to work each day and most of the time it’s parked outside. Over time, the finish quality deteriorates and in order to restore it with just a single product you’ll want a cleaner/wax.

A cleaner/wax is also what we in the detailing industry call a One-Step product or an AIO.

AIO stands for All-In-One. AIO products will do multiple processes in one step, that is they will,


Clean the surface
Polish the paint to a high gloss
Leave behind a layer of protection
The problem for the average Joe Consumer is that most retail products don’t specifically state what type of product they are? The tell you how to apply it, how long to let it dry and then how to remove it but they leave it wide open as to what the product is and how its best used.




A cleaner/wax is best used on a neglected finish because a neglected finish needs to be cleaned. Cleaner/Waxes, or All-In-One products are designed for a large market which includes do-it-yourselfers and detailers that want to restore a bright, shiny finish to the paint but want to do it in one-step. Their goal is to get a great looking finish without having to invest the time and effort associated with a multiple-step approach which usually includes,

Dedicated compounding or paint cleaning step
Dedicated polishing or glazing step
Dedicated sealing step using a finishing wax or finishing paint sealant
Keep in mind besides the above 3 steps that are the norm for a multiple-step process, there's also,

The washing and drying step
The claying step if the car is parked outside a lot and has built-up above surface bonded contaminants. (Most daily drivers need to be clayed).
If we add the above two steps, (washing & drying step and claying step), together with the multiple 3-step approach that would make the average car detailing session 5 steps at a minimum.

The washing and drying step
The claying step if the car is parked outside a lot and has built-up above surface bonded contaminants. (Most daily drivers need to be clayed).
Dedicated compounding or paint cleaning step
Dedicated polishing or glazing step
Dedicated sealing step using a finishing wax or paint sealant.
Because the majority of people in this world look at their car as a mode of transportation instead of an extension of their personality, its' easy to understand that most people want and only need a one-step cleaner/wax.

A cleaner/wax doesn't need to be used, and in most cases shouldn't be used, on a car in which the paint is in excellent condition, for example a brand new car or an older car in which the paint has been properly cleaned and polished. For finishes on both of these types of cars the paint would be better served using a finishing wax or finishing sealant.

Another example would be a brand new paint job after the regular 30 days air-cure waiting time. Brand new paint should look great after you pick it up from the painter but most painters will tell you to wait at least 30 days before sealing the paint with either a wax or paint sealant.

After the 30 days have passed, a finishing wax should be used not a cleaner/wax because theoretically, the paint is supposed to be in excellent condition so you shouldn't have to use any product with cleaners or abrasives in it.


Application Method
In most cases, a cleaner/wax type product needs to be worked over and into the surface. Cleaner/waxes are not wipe on, wipe off products. Part of the cleaning action comes from you either working the product over the surface and engaging the cleaning ingredients with the paint or you running an electric polisher and the polisher is engaging the cleaning ingredients against the paint. The worse condition the paint, the more you'll need to work the product.

[flamed03vert]

I don't understand how a protective product can "clean" or "remove swirl marks" and yet be labeled as "non abrasive."



Makes me think of Klasse AIO... hmmm

[RoadRageDetail]

Actually, the label states it eliminates swirl marks.


The word eliminates can be used in a number of ways, it can mean removes by abrading or like Jim posted, it can cause the swirl marks to look eliminated by filling them in.


Most products sold as a cure all for everything by their very nature must be a cleaner/wax. That's not a bad thing

I don't mean to sound argumentative here, and but by definition, "eliminate" means "to remove." And since this product is non-abrasive, you and I have been around the block enough to know that it won't remove swirls, it will hide them to return another day. Why not call a spade a spade? To "eliminate" and "to look eliminated" are two very different things in my book. If I sell a product to you that says it will eliminate a termite infestation in your house, but only delivers the LOOK of elimination, you'd probably want your money back. Just sayin'.

Perhaps to most of the detail world, this an acceptable means of advertisement because we recognize Joe Shmoe (who this product is aimed at) won't understand or care what a $15 bottle of cleaner wax really does, as long as he sees swirl mark reduction. I look at it as a misleading description.

[Mike Phillips]

I don't mean to sound argumentative here, and but by definition, "eliminate" means "to remove."





I agree. I'm not defending their use of the word eliminates I'm just sharing what I know about how marketing works. If the swirls and scratches are visually reduced, then the marketing department will wordsmith that to mean they are eliminated, even if just visually.


I'm also a word guy. I've learned to pick and choose my words when writing for anything very carefully. And for the most part, anytime I post something, I've already made sure my words are bullet-proof and unchallengeable.

Something I learned as a veteran of the Zaino vs NXT wars.


:D

[RoadRageDetail]

Anytime I post something, I've already made sure my words are bullet-proof and unchallengeable.

:D

New sig material right here

[Mike Phillips]

New sig material right here


That's funny...



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