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Ryry11
10-10-2012, 12:59 PM
I sealed the family cars up with wgdgps for the winter, but after reading about collinite's 845 being an awesome winter wax, I ordered sone and would love to try it. Question is, am I wasting my time applying it over the wgdgps, or would it be beneficial as I'm just adding another layer of protection? I know wgdgps is awesome as is and I love it, but I also love waxing and adding more protection ;) but with it getting colder quick, I don't want to waste my time putting it on it it's gonna be a waste of my time. Input is appreciated!

yakky
10-10-2012, 01:17 PM
845 has plenty of solvents so it'll be just fine on top of most anything. Leave a section of just WG and see how they compare.

Chris's FX4
10-10-2012, 01:17 PM
Personally, I don't think it would be a waste of time. Many members will lay their favorite sealant down first and then top with 845 for winter. Essentially then the 845 would have to wear off first.

But why not just top with another coat of WGDGPS? 2 coats of it get my truck through the harsh UP winters, and its outside 24/7.

Kind of similar thread: http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/wolfgang-car-care/56014-about-wolfgang-deep-gloss-paint-sealant.html

Ryry11
10-10-2012, 01:52 PM
Oh I agree Chris, I have 2 coats on them as is of dgps, it's just my OCD of wanting to use another wax and add extra protection for winter. I've used the dgps before with only one coat and it lasts forever it seems, it's great stuff

WickedLou9
10-10-2012, 03:04 PM
Oh I agree Chris, I have 2 coats on them as is of dgps, it's just my OCD of wanting to use another wax and add extra protection for winter. I've used the dgps before with only one coat and it lasts forever it seems, it's great stuff
in terms of protection 476 > 845
it's harder to work with and it gums up your foam applicator but it sure it durable. It would probably work well on top of that WG sealant. If you are going for durability, might as well go whole hog.

BobbyG
10-10-2012, 03:10 PM
For winter here's my plan and it always includes a sealant then Collinite 845..

After a complete wash and clay, my 1999 Dodge Dakota will get a quick polish with Menzerna Super Finish PO106 FA (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-super-nano-polish.html). This really does a great job at removing most minor surface defects and the gloss is outstanding.

Once this is completed I'll do 2 coats of Menzerna Power Lock (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-power-lock-sealant.html) sealant, 12 hours apart, then a final coat of Collinite 845 (http://www.autogeek.net/collinite-insulator-wax-845.html) ....

All the plastic trim will be treated with CQuartz DLux Plastic & Wheel Coating (http://www.autogeek.net/cquartz-dlux.html) and the windshield will be cleaned and protected using Aquapel (http://www.autogeek.net/rain-repellent.html).

Throughout the winter I'll wash and maintain using several products especially a quality spray wax like Optimum Spray Car Wax (http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-spray-wax.html) or Duragloss Aquawax (http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss-aquawax--951.html) ..

habeba86
10-10-2012, 03:17 PM
For winter here's my plan and it always includes a sealant then Collinite 845..

After a complete wash and clay, my 1999 Dodge Dakota will get a quick polish with Menzerna Super Finish PO106 FA (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-super-nano-polish.html). This really does a great job at removing most minor surface defects and the gloss is outstanding.

Once this is completed I'll do 2 coats of Menzerna Power Lock (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-power-lock-sealant.html) sealant, 12 hours apart, then a final coat of Collinite 845 (http://www.autogeek.net/collinite-insulator-wax-845.html) ....

All the plastic trim will be treated with CQuartz DLux Plastic & Wheel Coating (http://www.autogeek.net/cquartz-dlux.html) and the windshield will be cleaned and protected using Aquapel (http://www.autogeek.net/rain-repellent.html).

Throughout the winter I'll wash and maintain using several products especially a quality spray wax like Optimum Spray Car Wax (http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-spray-wax.html) or Duragloss Aquawax (http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss-aquawax--951.html) ..

That could withstand a nuclear blast!

Ryry11
10-10-2012, 03:22 PM
Awesome Bobby i'm definately doing the 845 over the wolfgang...do you use the 845 on your wheels? How do they hold up? Easy to clean and maintain?

cleanmycorolla
10-10-2012, 03:25 PM
Whats this winter prep stuff? hahaha here in So Cal, we're lucky we have no winter! It does make me jealous though you guys get to have fun with winter combos!

ihaveacamaro
10-10-2012, 05:02 PM
Whats this winter prep stuff? hahaha here in So Cal, we're lucky we have no winter! It does make me jealous though you guys get to have fun with winter combos!

I'm not jealous at all. They have to deal with snow and salt all over their cars, we don't. I'd take that any day of the week over trying out winter combos lol

But... lately my girlfriend's car has undergone lots of wax stripping and different waxes, so I kind of have a test car hahah :buffing:

Johny B
10-10-2012, 07:51 PM
Whats this winter prep stuff? hahaha here in So Cal, we're lucky we have no winter! It does make me jealous though you guys get to have fun with winter combos!

Lucky are you! I hate winter time with sand and salt all over the car and I don't have a garage....not forgetting snow storms and -20o F temperature.

primo spaghetti
10-10-2012, 08:20 PM
ive read about alot of sucess topping WG with a variety of products nubas and the like, and many report great results with the collonite.

i was planning the 2 coats of WG and topped with collonite on my truck for my winter clean up, but i just ordered some Opti Coat...never tried it...so fingers crossed.


All the plastic trim will be treated with CQuartz DLux Plastic & Wheel Coating (http://www.autogeek.net/cquartz-dlux.html)

hey bobbyG...how does Dlux work on testured plastic. i have a 4th gen ram with textured plastic door handles, mirrors, and bed rail protectors. i tried KAIO on them and they still go white...id love something better!

Chris's FX4
10-10-2012, 09:31 PM
Whats this winter prep stuff? hahaha here in So Cal, we're lucky we have no winter! It does make me jealous though you guys get to have fun with winter combos!

You can test winter-prep combos yourself. Just apply them to your car, and then do as little as you can detailing wise to it in the next 4-8months.:D

The key to surviving winter is to embrace it.:xyxthumbs:

BiggenF15
10-10-2012, 09:42 PM
For winter here's my plan and it always includes a sealant then Collinite 845..

After a complete wash and clay, my 1999 Dodge Dakota will get a quick polish with Menzerna Super Finish PO106 FA (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-super-nano-polish.html). This really does a great job at removing most minor surface defects and the gloss is outstanding.

Once this is completed I'll do 2 coats of Menzerna Power Lock (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-power-lock-sealant.html) sealant, 12 hours apart, then a final coat of Collinite 845 (http://www.autogeek.net/collinite-insulator-wax-845.html) ....

All the plastic trim will be treated with CQuartz DLux Plastic & Wheel Coating (http://www.autogeek.net/cquartz-dlux.html) and the windshield will be cleaned and protected using Aquapel (http://www.autogeek.net/rain-repellent.html).

Throughout the winter I'll wash and maintain using several products especially a quality spray wax like Optimum Spray Car Wax (http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-spray-wax.html) or Duragloss Aquawax (http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss-aquawax--951.html) ..

I put two coats of Four Star Ultimate Paint Protection sealant and one coat of Collinite 845 on my Jetta a couple of weeks ago. Today, I came out after work and the car was covered with water spots. Apparently they must have turned on the sprinklers for a few seconds because they were small spots, but they were everywhere.

When I got home, I tried to remove the spots with Meg's QD, but that did nothing. I tried Ultima Waterless Wash Plus and also had no luck removing the spots. I can't believe these spots won't come off with all that protection on the paint!

Do I have to go back to square one and wash, polish, seal, and wax?

habeba86
10-11-2012, 12:28 AM
I put two coats of Four Star Ultimate Paint Protection sealant and one coat of Collinite 845 on my Jetta a couple of weeks ago. Today, I came out after work and the car was covered with water spots. Apparently they must have turned on the sprinklers for a few seconds because they were small spots, but they were everywhere.

When I got home, I tried to remove the spots with Meg's QD, but that did nothing. I tried Ultima Waterless Wash Plus and also had no luck removing the spots. I can't believe these spots won't come off with all that protection on the paint!

Do I have to go back to square one and wash, polish, seal, and wax?
Thats weird they wont wash off....you have ALOT of protection on that paint. What color is your paint? Are you sure its water spots?.....sorry had to ask.