signs of clear coat failure?

[rotemdaya]

hi,
I have an 2009 infiniti fx37 and i noticed some 3 strange spots on the hood...
no matter how hard i tired its doesn't gets off!
in this pic you can see 1 of them .
http://i49.tinypic.com/290znzt.jpg
iv order some products UC ;Clay kit and some wax it will help?

[Mike Phillips]

I cropped out just the part that matters...

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/spot003.jpg


Looks like someone rubbed something abrasive like a compound over a spot of some type. Now you have the spot plus scratches.


Take a white polish and a white cloth and rub lightly on the spot. If you pull the color of the paint the clear coat is missing.

If you don't pull the color of the paint then what you're experiencing is a phenomena characteristic to modern clear coat paints and that is they are hard.

Hard in relationship to the only other paint system we've had in the known history of mankind and the automobile, which is single stage.

This is why so many people have switched to machine polishing because they have discovered how difficult it is to fix paint defect by hand due to the hardness of the paint.

I cover ALL of this in my how-to book.


Paperback
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/715/medium/paperbackDetailingBook01.jpg (http://www.autogeek.net/art-of-detailing-paperback-book.html)




So do some testing and tell us if you're seeing colored paint on your testing cloth.


Also...

Welcome to Autogeek Online!


:welcome:

[rotemdaya]

I cropped out just the part that matters...

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/spot003.jpg


Looks like someone rubbed something abrasive like a compound over a spot of some type. Now you have the spot plus scratches.


Take a white polish and a white cloth and rub lightly on the spot. If you pull the color of the paint the clear coat is missing.

If you don't pull the color of the paint then what you're experiencing is a phenomena characteristic to modern clear coat paints and that is they are hard.

Hard in relationship to the only other paint system we've had in the known history of mankind and the automobile, which is single stage.

This is why so many people have switched to machine polishing because they have discovered how difficult it is to fix paint defect by hand due to the hardness of the paint.

I cover ALL of this in my how-to book.


Paperback
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/715/medium/paperbackDetailingBook01.jpg (http://www.autogeek.net/art-of-detailing-paperback-book.html)




So do some testing and tell us if you're seeing colored paint on your testing cloth.


Also...

Welcome to Autogeek Online!


:welcome:

thanks mike,
I opened the hood and see this http://img.tapatalk.com/a69368a1-143f-7754.jpg
what that mean and do you thinks UC will help by hand?

[Mike Phillips]

what that mean and do you thinks UC will help by hand?




Yes.

I'm making a video on how to hand apply UC Thursday night on this car. There is more technique to working by hand than by machine.


Learn How To Machine Polish a 1970 Cuda with a 440 Big Block! (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/sign-up-project-cars-clinics/56031-learn-how-machine-polish-1970-cuda-440-big-block.html)

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1572/Tommys70Cuda002.jpg



I perfected this technique and have taught it to a LOT of people over the years and want to share it via video at this point in time.


You can check this out too...

How to use a hand applied abrasive polish or paint cleaner by hand (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/26612-how-use-hand-applied-abrasive-polish-paint-cleaner-hand.html)


:)

[rotemdaya]

ok ty mike

[Mike Phillips]

I'll try to remember this thread and come back and post a follow-up with the video but if I don't PM me...


:)

[rotemdaya]

I'll try to remember this thread and come back and post a follow-up with the video but if I don't PM me...


:)

Thanks mike,
i ordered ultimate compound(cant buy it in israel) and i really hopes it will gets this spots off.
if this is a clear coat failure its only because of the israeli summer :cry:

[ihaveacamaro]

Thanks mike,
i ordered ultimate compound(cant buy it in israel) and i really hopes it will gets this spots off.
if this is a clear coat failure its only because of the israeli summer :cry:

I don't think it is from the pictures. It just looks like something that needs to be compounded/polished out :xyxthumbs:

[rotemdaya]

I don't think it is from the pictures. It just looks like something that needs to be compounded/polished out :xyxthumbs:

I hope so,
but i find this on the net and its seems to be similar ( look at the first pic) I'm really afraid
Car Wax Buyer’s Guide (http://guidetodetailing.com/detailing-tools-guides/car-wax-buyers-guide/)

[Mike Phillips]

I hope so,
but i find this on the net and its seems to be similar ( look at the first pic) I'm really afraid




That page you referenced has a link to two cars I buffed out and were used on Meguiar's bottles. Technically I only sanded and buffed the black car which is a BMW and I led a team of guys to do the extreme makeover on the Mercedes-Benz, these two cars..


http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/715/Mike_Phillips_Before_After.jpg



http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/715/Mike_Phillips_SwirlX_Before_After.jpg


They actually toned down the swirls for the above picture, here's what it really looked like...

RIDS and Feathersanding - A Highly Specialized Technique by Mike Phillips (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/tricks-tips-techniques/21469-rids-feathersanding.html)



Below Photos Courtesy of MeguiarsOnline.com

Before

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2600_before1.jpg


After

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2600_bmwsidebyside2.jpg


:D

[Mike Phillips]

I don't think it is from the pictures. It just looks like something that needs to be compounded/polished out :xyxthumbs:


I don't think it is either but the test I told him to try will let him now real fast. If it is just scratches and a round stain spot then he can probably remove the scratches and maybe the stain spot.


:)

[rotemdaya]

I don't think it is either but the test I told him to try will let him now real fast. If it is just scratches and a round stain spot then he can probably remove the scratches and maybe the stain spot.


:)
you see this pic mike ?
http://guidetodetailing.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/clearcoat-failure.jpg

[ihaveacamaro]

I don't think it is either but the test I told him to try will let him now real fast. If it is just scratches and a round stain spot then he can probably remove the scratches and maybe the stain spot.


:)

Yeah, I have already advised your tip to see if clear coat is there or not to several people in person... it's a good test :xyxthumbs:

[Mike Phillips]

Have you done the test I recommended yet?


:dunno:

[rotemdaya]

Have you done the test I recommended yet?


:dunno:

I want to detail my car and then i will do test .
Ill start in Sunday.
not a full detail (wish i had a DA)