J S Machine
09-26-2012, 12:41 PM
I posted about this on Corvette Forum, and several people led me here. I figured you guys might want to see this, and offer some advice.
My car was involved in a situation where powder coat paint leaked from a building exhaust fan, landed on my car, and the sun baked it on. I know this sounds weird, but believe me, it happened. The building is a painting facility and has lots of loose powder on thie inside from the operation. Some of it managed to get out, and the wind carried it across a parking lot where my car was.
To get it off, the guy detailing it used a clay bar. It was stuck pretty good, so after dragging the clay bar all over the entire car, the clear looked like someone had taken scotchbrite to it. It was very bad. I'm not sure if he used any type of lubricant or remover to lubricate and facilitate the removal of the stuck on powder.
This first attempt was apparently hidden with the fillers of polish or glaze, because after it rained on the car a few times I started to see the scratches from the claying.
The job was then redone a second time. to fix the claying marks. The detailer came back and supposedly used a light compound to get the scratches out, then a swirl remover, with a rotary buffer.
At first, it looked like the guy did a decent job, but it still didn't look as good as it did before this all happened. I could still slightly see some of the clay bar scratches. Also, I thought I might have seen a slight hologram, but nothing bad. He then used a wax..so anything that the buffer did was probably hidden.
First of all, I don't know what he used as products. From looking at the stuff he had on the shelf, I assume it was either a PRO product or something from AutoMagic. Since he was putting the product into those little PRO detailing bottles, the ones that can be labeled with a marker, I have no idea what he was using.
Second, He did the whole entire job in about two hours..washing, drying, cutting, removing swirls, and waxing. No washing in between steps. Seems like a very rushed job to me, especially when trying to get the scratches out that were there. He also did not focus on one panel at a time; he simply went around the whole car repeatedly.
I did see the wax and have identified it. This is it:
PRO Car Beauty Products: W-41 YELLOW WAXâ„¢ PASTE (http://www.prowax.com/waxes/W-41_Yellow_Wax_Paste.html)
Now, fast forward to a week after this second "detail"
I went out and checked it out. the car had been sitting in the driveway (I don't have a garage) for about four days. Even through the dust that had now settled on the car, the holograms were unbelievable. It lookes so bad I am embarrassed about it. I decided to wash the car with dishwashing liquid in an effort to possibly cut off this wax the detailer put on. I knew this would expose more of the problems.
What I found shocked me, and anybody else who has seen it.
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd198/JSMachine/swirl%20marks/2012-09-20_17-27-14_849_zps6124cbf7.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd198/JSMachine/swirl%20marks/2012-09-20_17-27-23_588_zpsd6c50048.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd198/JSMachine/swirl%20marks/2012-09-20_17-29-26_235_zpseb94fe19.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd198/JSMachine/swirl%20marks/2012-09-20_17-30-36_939_zpscf8c616f.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd198/JSMachine/swirl%20marks/2012-09-20_17-29-46_661_zps166e711e.jpg
Now, for my questions.
1.Obviously, this is going to take professional paint correction to fix. I have been on the phone with several detailers, and have gotten some very good advice. I understand the process well now, and am just trying to figure out what to do next.
This is a very delicate situation because of the circumstances around it. Feel free to reply to this thread with any concerns you may have or what it might take to fix it. However, as far as the rest of the story about what actually happened, please send me a pm.
At this point, before I take another step, I think it is smart to get the paint thickness tested. I am having trouble finding anyone local who has one of the ultrasonic testers for fiberglass panels.
Thanks
My car was involved in a situation where powder coat paint leaked from a building exhaust fan, landed on my car, and the sun baked it on. I know this sounds weird, but believe me, it happened. The building is a painting facility and has lots of loose powder on thie inside from the operation. Some of it managed to get out, and the wind carried it across a parking lot where my car was.
To get it off, the guy detailing it used a clay bar. It was stuck pretty good, so after dragging the clay bar all over the entire car, the clear looked like someone had taken scotchbrite to it. It was very bad. I'm not sure if he used any type of lubricant or remover to lubricate and facilitate the removal of the stuck on powder.
This first attempt was apparently hidden with the fillers of polish or glaze, because after it rained on the car a few times I started to see the scratches from the claying.
The job was then redone a second time. to fix the claying marks. The detailer came back and supposedly used a light compound to get the scratches out, then a swirl remover, with a rotary buffer.
At first, it looked like the guy did a decent job, but it still didn't look as good as it did before this all happened. I could still slightly see some of the clay bar scratches. Also, I thought I might have seen a slight hologram, but nothing bad. He then used a wax..so anything that the buffer did was probably hidden.
First of all, I don't know what he used as products. From looking at the stuff he had on the shelf, I assume it was either a PRO product or something from AutoMagic. Since he was putting the product into those little PRO detailing bottles, the ones that can be labeled with a marker, I have no idea what he was using.
Second, He did the whole entire job in about two hours..washing, drying, cutting, removing swirls, and waxing. No washing in between steps. Seems like a very rushed job to me, especially when trying to get the scratches out that were there. He also did not focus on one panel at a time; he simply went around the whole car repeatedly.
I did see the wax and have identified it. This is it:
PRO Car Beauty Products: W-41 YELLOW WAXâ„¢ PASTE (http://www.prowax.com/waxes/W-41_Yellow_Wax_Paste.html)
Now, fast forward to a week after this second "detail"
I went out and checked it out. the car had been sitting in the driveway (I don't have a garage) for about four days. Even through the dust that had now settled on the car, the holograms were unbelievable. It lookes so bad I am embarrassed about it. I decided to wash the car with dishwashing liquid in an effort to possibly cut off this wax the detailer put on. I knew this would expose more of the problems.
What I found shocked me, and anybody else who has seen it.
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd198/JSMachine/swirl%20marks/2012-09-20_17-27-14_849_zps6124cbf7.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd198/JSMachine/swirl%20marks/2012-09-20_17-27-23_588_zpsd6c50048.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd198/JSMachine/swirl%20marks/2012-09-20_17-29-26_235_zpseb94fe19.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd198/JSMachine/swirl%20marks/2012-09-20_17-30-36_939_zpscf8c616f.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd198/JSMachine/swirl%20marks/2012-09-20_17-29-46_661_zps166e711e.jpg
Now, for my questions.
1.Obviously, this is going to take professional paint correction to fix. I have been on the phone with several detailers, and have gotten some very good advice. I understand the process well now, and am just trying to figure out what to do next.
This is a very delicate situation because of the circumstances around it. Feel free to reply to this thread with any concerns you may have or what it might take to fix it. However, as far as the rest of the story about what actually happened, please send me a pm.
At this point, before I take another step, I think it is smart to get the paint thickness tested. I am having trouble finding anyone local who has one of the ultrasonic testers for fiberglass panels.
Thanks