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Sunshyne
09-20-2012, 05:28 PM
I have wool pads coming for a rotory, my question is. What do I follow up with or is the LC wool pad enough on the gel coat to provide a good finish?

I have never purchased foam this large before. I intend on using 3M compound and then follow up with a polish on a boat. thanks

freedre
10-05-2012, 11:32 AM
I have wool pads coming for a rotory, my question is. What do I follow up with or is the LC wool pad enough on the gel coat to provide a good finish?

I have never purchased foam this large before. I intend on using 3M compound and then follow up with a polish on a boat. thanks


Good morning Sunshyne.

You seem to be underwhelmed with responses.

IMO, I use only wool for compounding and polishing. My boat has a lot of 'snaps' and other 'sticky out' parts that will shred a foam pad in a hearbeat.

I have done three boats (all my own) so far and have gotten a bit of experience and am pretty happy with the results.

I use a 'heavy cut' compound to grind out the oxidized layer and 3M FinesseIt II as a final polish. I love FinesseIt.

On my current boat I used 3M Heavy Cut compound but found it was really 'dusty'. In fact the marina manager gave me heck for making such a mess! If I do it again I will use Meguires, as I did on my other two boats.

Good luck with your project :caflag:

Sunshyne
10-08-2012, 10:43 AM
thanks for the response pal! I actually did the boat with the Megs since there wasn't that much oxidation. I followed up with their polish, also the FinesseIt II afterwards and it turned out pretty good. I did shred a handful of pads though. I did not like that part but until I get my rotory collection complete I have no choice.

Mike Phillips
10-08-2012, 12:57 PM
You seem to be underwhelmed with responses.



Luckily this is the exception and not the norm on this incredibly active forum.

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Hoytman
10-08-2012, 01:19 PM
Which version of Finesse-It II were you using? They apparently make two versions and I recently was told by a 3M representative that they indeed are different. Here's a link to a thread where I contacted 3M about the products; Meguiar's Marine Product comparison to 3M (http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?56363-Meguiar-s-Marine-Product-comparison-to-3M)

Sunshyne
10-09-2012, 10:44 AM
this is the one I have.

3M Marine Finesse-It II Glaze, gelcoat finishing glaze, 3M Finesse-It Gelcoat Glaze, polish gelcoat (http://www.autogeek.net/3m-marine-glaze.html)

Hoytman
10-09-2012, 12:29 PM
this is the one I have.

3M Marine Finesse-It II Glaze, gelcoat finishing glaze, 3M Finesse-It Gelcoat Glaze, polish gelcoat (http://www.autogeek.net/3m-marine-glaze.html)

I was recently told by a gentleman at 3M that the Marine version is just a glaze and has less cut than the automotive version. I found the information the man gave me to be a bit puzzling.

Couple that with information from JamestownDistributors, who often make a ton of product recommendations on fiberglass boats, and they will tell you to use either a one-step process (using 3M Imperial Compound and Finishing Material), or a two-step process (using 3M Super Duty Compound and Finesse-It II...the auto version). This information coincides with 3M's own gel-coat refinishing system videos on youtube. However, it makes me wonder why 3M markets a marine version of Finesse-It II and is labeled as a marine product, when according to the gentleman I spoke with, the product is just a glaze. That left me thinking, "So, I'm supposed to use a wool pad and rotary with rocks in a bottle...3M Super Duty Compound...and only follow it up with a glaze and not a finer polish!?!?!"

For awhile there I had thought the man on the phone gave me improper information, but in reality his words were backed up by the 3M videos on youtube showcasing the gel-coat finishing system. I still don't understand why they market a Marine version of Finesse-It II and don't show it being used in the videos? Makes me wonder if the products are the same and simply labeled different, but representatives I spoke with say, "they're not the same, the auto version has heavier abrasives and the marine is just a glaze." That's what they told me when I called them.

Sunshyne
10-09-2012, 08:00 PM
man what a let down... lol

thanks for the info. Ill use mine as a simple glaze moving forward

Hoytman
10-09-2012, 08:54 PM
In all honesty I don't mind passing this information on since it "is" what 3 representatives told me. However, in a way I have mixed feelings about the information I recieved being credible. As I continued to ask questions and inquire about the Finesse-It II products, they kept transfering me to another associate...and I think they were just reading from a product description. In fact, the last guy I spoke with told me he'd only used the Finesse-It II products one time, which doesn't sit too well with me.

It certainly isn't the same as Mr. Phillips getting hold of Jason Rose at Meguiar's and getting a real thorough and informative answer from a guy who knows the Meguiar's products inside and out.

Until I hear otherwise, if I use any 3M products on boats (specifically the Finesse-It II products) I will use the auto FI II product shown in 3M gel-coat finishing system.

I was also told the the abrasives in 3M Imperial Compound and Finishing material had more cut than those of 3M Super Duty Compound, which doesn't make sense to me.