possible wrong doings?

[hawaiian5]

Got my 7424xp with the blackfire kit. Followed the steps and instructions on mikes video. The results are not good at all. I did the hood only, as a test. I clayed, used blackfire src with orange lc pad, then polish with blackfire Sr polish then wet diamond, second coat just went on after letting cure for the night. This is what I noticed. A medium amount of dust, and water spots not coming off. The spots seem to just blend in but I still can see the outline of the spots. I put a lil down pressure on the pc also. Do I need a more aggressive compound and pad? The swirls seem to be gone also. I have pics but it doesn't wanna let me upload from my phone. Sorry, my rig fried so no computer .

[swanicyouth]

We're the spots there before polishing or are they new? The dust is from using too much BFWD. It should only take about 1/2 ounce to do a regular size car. If the spots were there prior and weren't removed its likely you just need to dial in your technique beefier going to a stronger compound. Try higher OPMs, slower arm speed, more passes, and more pressure on the polisher. The products you have are high quality, that's why I'm guessing it's technique.

[rmagnus]

Another thought but when you go to the polishing step also change your pad to a polishing pad. Keep pads clean during the process. For a test panel I prefer doing a small area like 1.5x1.5 and use a less noticeable area than a hood or trunk, rear quarter panel is good test area. I agree with previous post look to your technique.

[hawaiian5]

Ok thx. I didn't want to put to much down pressure so maybe its that. Spots was there for a loooong time. I live in a volcanic area so probably from acid rain and salt air from the beach. The look is amazing, but still can see the spots. I was able to upload pic in to my member gallery if u guys wanna see what I mean. Be sure to zoom in on the after pic to see the spots. Ty and Aloha.

[bullitt 736]

The spots may not come out regardless due to their nature

[hawaiian5]

So sanding might be the only way? Still gonna try a more heavy compound after a few more passes and technique. But all options still open.

[primo spaghetti]

try slowing your arm speed and make sure you are really doing at least 6 section passes.

[Vegas Transplant]

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/IMG_20120908_163140.jpg


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[primo spaghetti]

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/IMG_20120908_191431.jpg

are you not wearing a shirt? :nomore:

:doh: now that is some reflection!!

[hawaiian5]

Lol. No shirt, but that ain't no nipples. Lmao. I did a double take on that pic. Thx for posting, my rig is down so I gotta use my droid. If u zoom in on the pic, u can see the outlining of the spots. Gonna try again next weekend. Single parent means barely any time to myself. Lol.

[bullitt 736]

So sanding might be the only way? Still gonna try a more heavy compound after a few more passes and technique. But all options still open.

I'm on my phone so I'm not going to search but look for some threads by Mike Phillips regarding water spots. Really good stuff.

[Vegas Transplant]

Originally Posted by hawaiian5 http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/images/autogeek/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/55159-possible-wrong-doings-post735940.html#post735940)
So sanding might be the only way? Still gonna try a more heavy compound after a few more passes and technique. But all options still open


If OEM paint, on older vehicle, I would go more aggressive before wet sanding also.

Weigh your options: waterspots/clear coat.



The spots may not come out regardless due to their nature.

Well said. Sage advice.

[hawaiian5]

Ok. Thx everyone.

[rmagnus]

I wouldn't worry about putting too much down force pressure on the PC. Mark your back plate with a line to better see if the pad is spinning. When compounding you'll need some down force to start with then lighten up as the product starts flashing.

I doubt you'll have to wet sand for water spotting. Compound then polish should so e trick to remove the spots.

[jrs1418]

Might be a different type of water spot. One type sits on the surface, the other is actually etched from acid rain or some type of chemical. you removed the spot, but there's a "fossil" left behind. depending on how deep it can be past the CC and if so sanding wont help.