Collinite Sapphire PreWax Cleaner #840 issue?

[kavncool]

Anyone has experience for this product? last week i used it before applying 845, and i

found that it is really hard to buff off by hand..."just wondering why"

I use 7424XP and CCS black pad with speed 2, and buff off by microfiber towl by hard

[neat e34]

Haven't used this myself (see below) but on the AG product page they mention that #840 will need to be buffed off almost immediately & seem to suggest it may be best used by hand. If using a machine they suggest working no more than one panel at a time before buffing...

Did you do this or work on the whole car then buff?

#840 is also recommended only for single-stage paints, not base/clear.
Others may have used this on clear-coated cars & had good results (I'm not sure...) but I have stayed away due to that recommendation...

[FUNX650]

-I realize that there are tinted clear-coat paints...

-But because of what the Collinite folks actually mean in their #840 product description
is unclear (pardon the pun) to me, I do not use it on any BC/CC paint system.

-Light-colored clear-coat paint vs. Dark clear-coat paint?
Just means, to me, that any "marring" incurred from #840's usage is harder
to see on/in a clear-coat top-coat paint film that's atop
a lighter colored base-coat paint that's integral to a BC/CC paint system.

-I also recommend reading #840's application/removal processes.


2. Recommended for:
• Tarnished/soiled/stained/discolored/weathered surfaces
• Light colored clear coat paints (?)<<<My questioning mark (white, silver), fiberglass, gel-coat

2a. NOT for use on:
• Dark clear coat paint (?)<<<My questioning mark or painted metals
• Surfaces unmentioned above, as testing has yet to be extensively conducted. Refer to Collinite
directly with application inquiries.

Source:
http://www.collinite.com/assets/Uploads/Product-Tech-Sheets-PDF/TTech840pdf.pdf

:)

Bob

[ihaveacamaro]

Hey Bob, what I think it means is that for light colored cars that have a clear coat, it's good. And for dark colored cars that have a clear coat, it shouldn't be used.

[FUNX650]

Hey Bob, what I think it means is that for light colored cars that have a clear coat, it's good. And for dark colored cars that have a clear coat, it shouldn't be used.

Thanks for your reply ihaveacamaro.

Yes...I do understand that's what the 'Collinite-Folks' say...

But...Why is this so?

As I alluded to earlier:
Is it because it's harder to see swirls/marring in a clear-coat that's part
of a lighter-colored base-coat: BC/CC paint system...
...No matter the brand name of the pre-wax cleaner,
or other abrasive-containing products, that's being used??...Or not?!?!

Any answers/input that you offer/provide regarding this issue will be appreciated.
Thanks!

:)

Bob

[kavncool]

Haven't used this myself (see below) but on the AG product page they mention that #840 will need to be buffed off almost immediately & seem to suggest it may be best used by hand. If using a machine they suggest working no more than one panel at a time before buffing...

Did you do this or work on the whole car then buff?

#840 is also recommended only for single-stage paints, not base/clear.
Others may have used this on clear-coated cars & had good results (I'm not sure...) but I have stayed away due to that recommendation...

First i work half panel then buff off, but it seems really hard to buff off, maybe last time i

will try to use hand to see what happen....