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BILL
04-13-2007, 05:06 PM
How do these 2 compare.......???????????:confused:

BlackCoupe
04-13-2007, 05:20 PM
Based on personal experience:

16 goes on and comes off harder (but I have been accused of using too much), but lasts longer.

Souveran goes on and comes off wet and easy, but does not last as long. Probably looks a little wetter when it first goes on than 16.

Other's will have different opinions.

orngez
04-13-2007, 05:29 PM
16 = even when applied thin is a pain to get off...but lasts a long time....

Souveran = like wiping butter on and off a car...

Souveran > 16 in appearance... 16 > Souveran...as far as durability

supercharged
04-13-2007, 06:29 PM
16 = even when applied thin is a pain to get off...but lasts a long time....

Souveran = like wiping butter on and off a car...

Souveran > 16 in appearance... 16 > Souveran...as far as durability
:iagree: :iagree: Well said. Use #16 for maximum durability, such as winter wax; you Souveran for maximum depth, and apperance (great summer wax).

wytstang
04-13-2007, 11:21 PM
A agree with what was said all though I don't find #16 hard to remove/apply at all.

travisdecpn
04-13-2007, 11:25 PM
The trick to removing #16 easily is using a MF bonnet on the PC, and a whole lot of praying.

Nuke33
04-13-2007, 11:37 PM
I wish I had eather one! lol

wytstang
04-13-2007, 11:43 PM
Here a tip for those having problems removing #16. Do 2 panels at a time then go back and remove the wax from the first panel applied. If doing a large panel (hood, roof) do that one panel only then do back and remove. Also you don't have to actually see the wax haze on the panel, you should apply it so thin it's hard to see.

sneek
04-13-2007, 11:43 PM
I have a huge stock pile of #16 :D

http://www3.telus.net/cyu/mini-Picture%20001.jpg

so I don't think I will be trying Souveran for a while. I sold one can since the pic was taken, so I only have 9 cans now LOL.

Yes, the key is to apply a thin coat. It actually applies really thin with finishing pad on the PC. I like the beading of #21 more, but the look of #21 topped with #16 is just amazing!

ltoman
04-13-2007, 11:50 PM
when i let wax sit too long, i have added a bit of spray wax to my mf and it helped big time. is that a huge no no? i did not want to mess with the paint, so...

wytstang
04-14-2007, 12:07 AM
I would have opted to use a QD but there nothing wrong with a spray wax either.

drdellorama
04-14-2007, 12:09 AM
my #16 is coming from the mail, anytime now.
so you don't have to let the wax haze? is it a WOWO type of wax?
i can't wait for mine to come!

wytstang
04-14-2007, 12:10 AM
You can WOWO from what I've read but normally I just do 2 panels at a time thrn go back and remove. When you put it one super thin it doesn't take long to haze up.

BILL
04-14-2007, 07:02 AM
You can WOWO from what I've read but normally I just do 2 panels at a time thrn go back and remove. When you put it one super thin it doesn't take long to haze up.


THANKS EVERYONE:righton:

ScottB
04-14-2007, 08:15 AM
16 = even when applied thin is a pain to get off...but lasts a long time....

Souveran = like wiping butter on and off a car...

Souveran > 16 in appearance... 16 > Souveran...as far as durability



I think that is about the fairest assessment I have ever read, I am completely in agreement. Souveran will win shows, but #16 will protect alot longer.