What's in Collinite 845?

[FishyX]

What is in Collinite that makes it so durable? Is it as durable as something like Duragloss 105 or Zaino Z-2? Is it a wax or sealent?

[ihaveacamaro]

I believe it's a wax, just an extraordinarily durable one.

Sealants generally last at least a year.

[TroyScherer]

In my experience #845 is more of a sealant than a wax. It is ultra durable and most can easily get 4-6 months out of 2 layer application.




I believe it's a wax, just an extraordinarily durable one.

Sealants generally last at least a year.


Can I ask what sealant you are using and getting a year of durability out of? The most I realistically get is 6 months. After that I am never happy with it and need to strip it off and start again as it fails to bead and sheet like I think it should.

[ihaveacamaro]

In my experience #845 is more of a sealant than a wax. It is ultra durable and most can easily get 4-6 months out of 2 layer application.






Can I ask what sealant you are using and getting a year of durability out of? The most I realistically get is 6 months. After that I am never happy with it and need to strip it off and start again as it fails to bead and sheet like I think it should.


I should say sealants are generally advertised to last a year, never gotten that much out of mine either

[Hoytman]

If I'm not mistaken, I believe Mr. Phillips classifies it as a hybrid-wax. Wish I could remember the thread, but you could do a search on hybrid wax on this forum and see what you come up with.

[ScottB]

Ancient Wax Secret ...

[mhphoto]

I've always got the inkling that it's a carnauba wax with various synthetic sealants mixed in. It's certainly not just your run of the mill carnauba wax, and it's certainly not just a sealant due to the carnauba content.

[glen e]

I've always got the inkling that it's a carnauba wax with various synthetic sealants mixed in. It's certainly not just your run of the mill carnauba wax, and it's certainly not just a sealant due to the carnauba content.

this is correct -it's a polymer and carnuba mix....

[stibuki]

I would also be willing to bet its a just a good quality sealant with a decent amount of carnuba content. It's all in the secret sauce ;) If your willing to put in a little more effort try some #476 or #915 paste. Lasts quite a bit longer! Three coats of #915 got me about a year of protection on a garaged daily driver. I also like to top all my Duragloss jobs with a coat of #845. Adds a nice warm glow to the somewhat sterile look of DG's sealants without to much extra work.

What really amazes me about #845 is how long a bottle lasts if properly applied. It seems to last forever!

[FUNX650]

I find myself agreeing with Mr. Mike Phillips on his "classifications", found in his following Article:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/23263-difference-between-cleaner-wax-finishing-wax.html

From this article:


The Difference Between a Cleaner/Wax and a Finishing Wax (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/23263-difference-between-cleaner-wax-finishing-wax.html)

Subtitle: How To Choose The Right Wax or Paint Sealant for your Detailing Project

Finishing Waxes
A product that offers no cleaning ability with the focus on maximizing beauty with the protection based upon naturally occurring ingredients.<<<(My bolding)

List of Paint Protection Products

Finishing Waxes
Collinite Liquid Insulator Wax #845 (http://www.autogeek.net/collinite-insulator-wax-845.html)



Also, from this Article:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=289687

Autogeek's Showcase of Paint Protectants


Finishing Waxes
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/FinishingWaxes006.jpg

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The MSDS for Collinite's:
925 Fiberglass Boat Wax/845 Insulator Wax...only lists the following as a hazardous ingredient:
Name...SOLVENT: (ONLY) PETROLEUM HJYDROCARBON (DX 3641 NAPHTHA)...CAS# 8030-30-6.

{Usually...If a product contains any man-made/synthetic ingredients...they'll be listed under the hazardous-ingredients
as a poly-dimethyl/poly-amino...silicone/siloxane...something-or-the-other...
I don't see any of the sort so listed for Collinite 925/845.}
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No matter, IMO... Both 925/845 are excellent waxes!

FYI...You can always give the Collinite folks a call, if you'd so desire:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/collinitebrochure1.jpg (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/49181)

Hope this helps some.


:)

Bob

[wgilles]

I would assume whatever makes it smell so bad is what makes it last so long

[Hoytman]

Thanks for clearing that up Bob.:xyxthumbs:

[kline39]

I'm in no regards a chemist, but after using colli 845, 476s, and klasse, i've been wondering if collinite doesnt have some type of acryllic base to it. to me, there seems to be quite a few similarities to collinite and klasse.

[FUNX650]

I'm in no regards a chemist

Me neither!! (Unless playing: "Doctor"...counts :D)

, but after using colli 845, 476s, and klasse, i've been wondering if collinite doesnt have some type of acryllic base to it. to me, there seems to be quite a few similarities to collinite and klasse.

I bet "Old Man Collins"...

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/oldmancollins.jpg (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/49183)

...would roll over in his grave if this was true!!

-Although the "Collinite Company" claims to have slightly tweaked #845 recently (adding more carnuba...FWIW)
there's still no mention of any...

Acrylic polyaminosiloxanes/polyethylene-acrylics; polymer-acrylics/polyacrylates;
acrylic-resins/synthetic-resins; thermoplastic/thermosetting plastic chemicals/substances...

....Being so thusly added to their ~75 years-old wax-formulas.


-Not that this doesn't mean that "acrylics" are present, or not, in 925/845...
(Collinite's blenders probably won't divulge the "family's long-withheld secret formulas").


Just my opinion:
There would have to be a near ground-shaking event as to:
Why would they/are they going to: Mess around with proven products?
If they do...
An update to 925's/845's MSDS' would, more than likely, be deemed appropiate by the: Powers That Be.

Stay Tuned...might just be apropos.

:)

Bob

[Setec Astronomy]

On another forum years ago, someone talked to them and their waxes have "resins" in them.