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Regency
08-10-2012, 03:33 AM
Hey guys I'm some what new and I'm 15 getting ready to start up my detailing businuess in may ( Carroll Customs Detailing) when I get my moms yukon when 16. Pics at bottom. Basically I just have been detailing cars over summer family friends and really got addicted I love chemical guys will never change and am on a plan with them to become a affiliate and a custom package for start up. Couple questions though getting my PC 7424 xp in may when I start up What do I do when panels separate? I heard you can make paint go bye bye if you use a machine in there true? Very nervous about that and would anyone from the seattle/eastside area wanna detail when I'm up and running haha? Basically saving up for paying half of the supplies moms got the other half and all my other money goes into saving up for my big plans with the truck anyone with a gm fullsize chassis should come over to tahoeyukonforum I'm regency over there so make sure to add me as a referal! Here's the truck
Getting rid of the projectors don't worry guys haha
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg598/Regencyyukon/IMG_0787.jpg
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg598/Regencyyukon/IMG_0768-1.jpg
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg598/Regencyyukon/IMG_0271.jpg
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg598/Regencyyukon/DSC_1464.jpg

BobbyG
08-10-2012, 05:24 AM
:welcome: To Autogeek Online!

Starting early in life is a great way to learn early so you won't be making the mistakes most of did until we learned how to do things correctly.

You' mom is giving up her gorgeous Yukon? You have a very nice mom so her details are free for life!

Because of the dual action design, it's very difficult to damage or burn through the paint with this style of polisher. I have seen the results where the someone using a course pad and an aggressive compound then held it in one spot. He was trying to remove a scratch and ended up compounding, sanding, through the clear.

Sharp edges are always a concern and exercising caution in these areas is always a good idea.

Autogeek Online is "the" place to learn some of the finest ways to detail your car. There is a wealth of knowledge here for the beginner to the most advanced. A simple question is all that's needed to initiate helpful responses from members here and also Autogeek Professional Staff.


Everyone starts off as a beginner but with some reading, questions, and trial, error, and practice you'll be amazed how much you'll be able to do. After reading and understanding some of the basics, the more hands on, the quicker you'll build your knowledge and gain experience.

This link will take you to some fabulous articles written by Mike Phillips.


Articles by Mike Phillips (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/23722-articles-mike-phillips.html)

Basic steps in order are:


Wash
Clay
Paint Correction & Polish
Seal
Wax


The Porter Cable 7424xp


Porter Cable 7424xp (http://www.autogeek.net/porter-cable-7424xp.html)
Lake Country Backing Plate (http://www.autogeek.net/lc43125.html)
Lake Country Flat Pads (http://www.autogeek.net/lake-country-beveled-pad-kit.html)
Meguiar's DA Microfiber Correction Kit (http://www.autogeek.net/da-microfiber-starter-kit-5in.html)



Here's more great information by Mike Phillips that will help you.


Sectional Pass With a DA Polisher (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-car-garage-how-videos/24074-show-car-garage-video-how-do-section-pass-when-machine-polishing-da-polisher.html)
Removing Swirls (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/tricks-tips-techniques/20021-definitive-how-article-removing-swirls-scratches-water-spots-using-porter-cable-7424xp-g110v2-griot-s-garage-polisher.html)
DA Trouble Shooting Guide (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/37769-da-polisher-trouble-shooting-guide.html)
Waxing With a DA Polisher (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/pinnacle-wax/28651-how-machine-apply-wax-using-da-polisher.html)
How to prime a foam pad when using a DA Polisher (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/35292-how-prime-foam-pad-when-using-da-polisher.html)
DA Polisher Articles - Help for Newbies to Machine Polishing (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/questions-about-porter-cable-7424xp-7424-7336-griot-s-meguiar-s-dual-action-polishers/38399-da-polisher-articles-help-newbies-machine-polishing.html)
How to MAXIMIZE your DA Polisher (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/27166-how-maximize-your-da-polisher.html)



More great information from Mike Phillips on Claying


Even show cars might need to be clayed... (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/42288-even-show-cars-might-need-clayed.html)
The Baggie Test - How to inspect for above surface bonded contaminants (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/27967-baggie-test-how-inspect-above-surface-bonded-contaminants.html)
The 3 primary benefits of using detailing clay to clay paint (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/27969-3-primary-benefits-using-detailing-clay-clay-paint.html)
Tips and Tricks for using detailing clay (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/20259-tips-techniques-using-detailing-clay.html)
Do I need to wash my car after I use detailing clay to clay the paint? (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/22721-do-i-need-wash-my-car-after-i-use-detailing-clay-clay-paint.html)
How often do I need to clay my car? (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/22015-how-often-do-i-need-clay-my-car.html)
How detailing clay works and how to use detailing clay to remove above surface bonded contaminants (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-videos/24319-show-car-garage-video-how-detailing-clay-works-how-use-detailing-clay-remove-above-surface-bonded-contaminants.html)

Mike Phillips
08-10-2012, 06:08 AM
Hey guys I'm some what new and I'm 15 getting ready to start up my detailing businuess in may ( Carroll Customs Detailing) when I get my moms yukon when 16.




Welcome to Autogeek Online! :welcome:

Since you're new to the forum, detailing and a detailing business, I would strongly encourage you to read the below articles,

Brand Yourself, Brand your Forum Nickname and Brand your Business Name (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/tricks-tips-techniques/23241-brand-yourself-brand-your-forum-nickname-brand-your-business-name.html)

How to choose a name for your detailing business (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/tricks-tips-techniques/22283-how-choose-name-your-detailing-business.html)


If you're new to forums, then take a read-through these, they will help you to help yourself...

A tip to help yourself get great answers when you start a thread (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/tips-techniques-how-articles-interacting-discussion-forums/29344-tip-help-yourself-get-great-answers-when-you-start-thread.html)

How to write a good title for your thread (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/introduce-yourself/20306-how-write-good-title-your-post.html)


And if you're in this for the long run, do yourself a HUGE favor and make sure to get Pro account on Photobucket so you don't have to delete old pictures to make room for new pictures and leave a trail of red x's all over the Internet moving into the future...

Photobucket and Missing Pictures (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/off-topic/23699-photobucket-missing-pictures.html)

If you're going to be a "Forum Person" on ANY forum, help yourself by learning how to work with picture on the Internet (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/off-topic/40083-if-you-re-going-forum-person-any-forum-help-yourself-learning-how-work-picture-internet.html)



:)

rider9195
08-10-2012, 06:19 AM
Welcome to Autogeek Online! It is very nice to see another young guy like get hooked on detailing.

I wouldn't limit yourself to just the Chemical Guys line of products. They do have great products and I have been using many of them. Although you would be missing out on other great products offered by different manufacturers.

Make sure you get plenty of practice in polishing out a car and have your process dialed in also. I would pick up your Porter Cable earlier so you have time to do that all.

Bobby supplied you with some great information above on polishing with a Dual Action polisher. Highly recommend soaking in and watching all the possible videos on machine polishing.

vet
08-10-2012, 07:35 AM
Welcome!

You'll get lots of good information from Mike and others. It sounds like you have a plan, and some backing, so learn all you can from the books and videos available from AG.

I wouldn't limit myself to one brand until you tried a few others, but like Mike says, "Find something you like and use it often."

Bill1234
08-10-2012, 09:46 AM
Also young too, When I first started, I found some old turtle wax in my closet and a random pad. I now have a Da, huge amounts of towels, electrical cords, and product. I would first start off saying that you will need to get a large amount of pads. Autogeek has 12 meguiars pads for about 100 dollars. I would also get m105 and m205. These products are for cars that are a bit rough with swirls and RIDS. Also I would get two daytona wheel brushes and two guzzler towels.

Regency
08-10-2012, 01:25 PM
:welcome: To Autogeek Online!

Starting early in life is a great way to learn early so you won't be making the mistakes most of did until we learned how to do things correctly.

You' mom is giving up her gorgeous Yukon? You have a very nice mom so her details are free for life!

Because of the dual action design, it's very difficult to damage or burn through the paint with this style of polisher. I have seen the results where the someone using a course pad and an aggressive compound then held it in one spot. He was trying to remove a scratch and ended up compounding, sanding, through the clear.

Sharp edges are always a concern and exercising caution in these areas is always a good idea.

Autogeek Online is "the" place to learn some of the finest ways to detail your car. There is a wealth of knowledge here for the beginner to the most advanced. A simple question is all that's needed to initiate helpful responses from members here and also Autogeek Professional Staff.


Everyone starts off as a beginner but with some reading, questions, and trial, error, and practice you'll be amazed how much you'll be able to do. After reading and understanding some of the basics, the more hands on, the quicker you'll build your knowledge and gain experience.

This link will take you to some fabulous articles written by Mike Phillips.


Articles by Mike Phillips (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/23722-articles-mike-phillips.html)

Basic steps in order are:


Wash
Clay
Paint Correction & Polish
Seal
Wax
The Porter Cable 7424xp


Porter Cable 7424xp (http://www.autogeek.net/porter-cable-7424xp.html)
Lake Country Backing Plate (http://www.autogeek.net/lc43125.html)
Lake Country Flat Pads (http://www.autogeek.net/lake-country-beveled-pad-kit.html)
Meguiar's DA Microfiber Correction Kit (http://www.autogeek.net/da-microfiber-starter-kit-5in.html)

Here's more great information by Mike Phillips that will help you.


Sectional Pass With a DA Polisher (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-car-garage-how-videos/24074-show-car-garage-video-how-do-section-pass-when-machine-polishing-da-polisher.html)
Removing Swirls (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/tricks-tips-techniques/20021-definitive-how-article-removing-swirls-scratches-water-spots-using-porter-cable-7424xp-g110v2-griot-s-garage-polisher.html)
DA Trouble Shooting Guide (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/37769-da-polisher-trouble-shooting-guide.html)
Waxing With a DA Polisher (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/pinnacle-wax/28651-how-machine-apply-wax-using-da-polisher.html)
How to prime a foam pad when using a DA Polisher (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/35292-how-prime-foam-pad-when-using-da-polisher.html)
DA Polisher Articles - Help for Newbies to Machine Polishing (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/questions-about-porter-cable-7424xp-7424-7336-griot-s-meguiar-s-dual-action-polishers/38399-da-polisher-articles-help-newbies-machine-polishing.html)
How to MAXIMIZE your DA Polisher (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/27166-how-maximize-your-da-polisher.html)

More great information from Mike Phillips on Claying


Even show cars might need to be clayed... (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/42288-even-show-cars-might-need-clayed.html)
The Baggie Test - How to inspect for above surface bonded contaminants (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/27967-baggie-test-how-inspect-above-surface-bonded-contaminants.html)
The 3 primary benefits of using detailing clay to clay paint (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/27969-3-primary-benefits-using-detailing-clay-clay-paint.html)
Tips and Tricks for using detailing clay (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/20259-tips-techniques-using-detailing-clay.html)
Do I need to wash my car after I use detailing clay to clay the paint? (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/22721-do-i-need-wash-my-car-after-i-use-detailing-clay-clay-paint.html)
How often do I need to clay my car? (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/22015-how-often-do-i-need-clay-my-car.html)
How detailing clay works and how to use detailing clay to remove above surface bonded contaminants (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-videos/24319-show-car-garage-video-how-detailing-clay-works-how-use-detailing-clay-remove-above-surface-bonded-contaminants.html)

Haha yeah I'm super lucky and thanks for that ohh yeah and details have been free since I started for her

Welcome to Autogeek Online! :welcome:

Since you're new to the forum, detailing and a detailing business, I would strongly encourage you to read the below articles,

Brand Yourself, Brand your Forum Nickname and Brand your Business Name (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/tricks-tips-techniques/23241-brand-yourself-brand-your-forum-nickname-brand-your-business-name.html)

How to choose a name for your detailing business (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/tricks-tips-techniques/22283-how-choose-name-your-detailing-business.html)


If you're new to forums, then take a read-through these, they will help you to help yourself...

A tip to help yourself get great answers when you start a thread (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/tips-techniques-how-articles-interacting-discussion-forums/29344-tip-help-yourself-get-great-answers-when-you-start-thread.html)

How to write a good title for your thread (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/introduce-yourself/20306-how-write-good-title-your-post.html)


And if you're in this for the long run, do yourself a HUGE favor and make sure to get Pro account on Photobucket so you don't have to delete old pictures to make room for new pictures and leave a trail of red x's all over the Internet moving into the future...

Photobucket and Missing Pictures (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/off-topic/23699-photobucket-missing-pictures.html)

If you're going to be a "Forum Person" on ANY forum, help yourself by learning how to work with picture on the Internet (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/off-topic/40083-if-you-re-going-forum-person-any-forum-help-yourself-learning-how-work-picture-internet.html)



:)
Thanks mike I've already read all of those and the success stories what really motivated me was I forgot his name but he's in dallas or austin and he was jobless and flipped it over to 10 grand a month

Welcome!

You'll get lots of good information from Mike and others. It sounds like you have a plan, and some backing, so learn all you can from the books and videos available from AG.

I wouldn't limit myself to one brand until you tried a few others, but like Mike says, "Find something you like and use it often."
True I've tried a few brands and it was basically the same only minus 2 plus I love there prices

Also young too, When I first started, I found some old turtle wax in my closet and a random pad. I now have a Da, huge amounts of towels, electrical cords, and product. I would first start off saying that you will need to get a large amount of pads. Autogeek has 12 meguiars pads for about 100 dollars. I would also get m105 and m205. These products are for cars that are a bit rough with swirls and RIDS. Also I would get two daytona wheel brushes and two guzzler towels.
Alright thanks for the pad help man and yeah weird last summer I was using dawn dish soap ( I know I know) and turtle wax

Regency
08-10-2012, 01:44 PM
This is what I'm getting for the PC http://www.chemicalguys.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BUF%5F209&CartID=4
And just more towels would I really need more pads?

Regency
08-10-2012, 01:46 PM
Welcome to Autogeek Online! It is very nice to see another young guy like get hooked on detailing.

I wouldn't limit yourself to just the Chemical Guys line of products. They do have great products and I have been using many of them. Although you would be missing out on other great products offered by different manufacturers.

Make sure you get plenty of practice in polishing out a car and have your process dialed in also. I would pick up your Porter Cable earlier so you have time to do that all.

Bobby supplied you with some great information above on polishing with a Dual Action polisher. Highly recommend soaking in and watching all the possible videos on machine polishing.
Ohh yeaha I also have watched all the videos from everyone adams, CG and autogeek

sproketser
08-10-2012, 06:08 PM
Welcome aboard buddy , read as much as you can in order to learn the business .

Bill1234
08-10-2012, 07:14 PM
Also remember , look professional, you dont have to wear a suit lol, but maybe a collered work shirt. I would also get some mixing cups at costco or walmart. You could measure product easier and save. Finally, organization is important. If you have everything disorganized it will take much longer to detail and you will look like that smiley face. ----> :confused:

bmwgalore
08-10-2012, 07:21 PM
This is what I'm getting for the PC Porter Cable 7424 & Foam Pad Kit - Car Buffer Porter Cable 7424XP & Pad Kit FREE BONUS (http://www.chemicalguys.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BUF%5F209&CartID=4)
And just more towels would I really need more pads?

Get the Griot's GG6 (http://www.autogeek.net/griots-random-orbital-polisher.html) instead of the PCxp..
You will quickly outgrow the PCxp, but the Griot's has more power and works faster.

Also, stick with 5.5" pads or smaller... Either Flats or Hydro-Tech (both by Lake Country), nothing else.

Consider learning how to work with a Rotary on the compound steps, it's very easy once you understand what's going on (many videos here on AG). Doing a full compound just with a DA is torture! But the final polishing step should be done with the DA, not with a rotary in order to finish swirl and holograms free.


Also, DON'T buy a kit... Buy separate stuff and assemble your own arsenal of products.. It may cost $5 more, but all items will be top quality.

Regency
08-10-2012, 08:48 PM
Also remember , look professional, you dont have to wear a suit lol, but maybe a collered work shirt. I would also get some mixing cups at costco or walmart. You could measure product easier and save. Finally, organization is important. If you have everything disorganized it will take much longer to detail and you will look like that smiley face. ----> :confused:
Trust me I wanna look like a pro haha already got my businuess cards and getting just a black shirt made also a company decal for the truck

Get the Griot's GG6 (http://www.autogeek.net/griots-random-orbital-polisher.html) instead of the PCxp..
You will quickly outgrow the PCxp, but the Griot's has more power and works faster.

Also, stick with 5.5" pads or smaller... Either Flats or Hydro-Tech (both by Lake Country), nothing else.

Consider learning how to work with a Rotary on the compound steps, it's very easy once you understand what's going on (many videos here on AG). Doing a full compound just with a DA is torture! But the final polishing step should be done with the DA, not with a rotary in order to finish swirl and holograms free.


Also, DON'T buy a kit... Buy separate stuff and assemble your own arsenal of products.. It may cost $5 more, but all items will be top quality.
Alright I will look into that thanks but I'll probably just stick with the porter for now until I'm more comfortable with machine polishing

Regency
08-10-2012, 08:49 PM
Welcome aboard buddy , read as much as you can in order to learn the business .
Will do!

Bill1234
08-10-2012, 09:08 PM
I would definately take a book with extra business cars and put them on cars on town that looks really bad. I would also use excel. Meaning use 1 spreadsheet for inventory, 1 for what you sold and 1 to add and subtract needs and profits. I would finally charge 15 dollars extra for suvs. Make a fine line what is an suv, when a customer argues that his or her car is smaller, show them why its an suv