Buff magic (use) question

[Whitfield]

The Buff Magic I'm using (blue can) seems to get very grabby as it breaks down. I'm I polishing it too long? 8" rotary with a twisted wool on speed 2, It is also turning a darker color and gumming up my 8" wool pad. I'm cleaning the pad about every 4' but clean the buff magic off the pad is a bear.

I'm new to detailing but the Meguires 49 and the 3-m super duty seemed to be easier to work with. I realize they are a different animal (Heavy cutting V/S cut polish in 1 step).

How best to make the buff magic work for me?

I tried going over a shiny place where I had previously used the meguires and got the same results, so I don't think it is dead gel gumming up the pad.

[rider9195]

You may be using too much product or working the product too long.

[scrubs147]

The Buff Magic I'm using (blue can) seems to get very grabby as it breaks down. I'm I polishing it too long? 8" rotary with a twisted wool on speed 2, It is also turning a darker color and gumming up my 8" wool pad. I'm cleaning the pad about every 4' but clean the buff magic off the pad is a bear.

I'm new to detailing but the Meguires 49 and the 3-m super duty seemed to be easier to work with. I realize they are a different animal (Heavy cutting V/S cut polish in 1 step).

How best to make the buff magic work for me?

I tried going over a shiny place where I had previously used the meguires and got the same results, so I don't think it is dead gel gumming up the pad.

There are several videos on you tube which are well worth the visit. Try using very little product as you'll see in some of the videos. Start out at a low setting such as 1.5 or 2. There is no need to apply much pressure as you're letting the machine do all the work. If it starts hop'n, then try backing off the pressure some or different angles. Once the product is clear you can boost the speed up to around 3 and give it a really cool shine. Don't forget to follow through with a foam pad and some Pro-Polish.

[Whitfield]

Thanks! I will give it a try. For now i've gone the 3m superduty / finessit marine polish glaze. I'll try the buff magic again on my friends 96 searay in a few weeks.

Sounds like i was using too much product.

[KKYS]

My sons downsized from an 8" to a 7" twisted wool when using Buff Magic.
They said it gives them more control to manipulate the horse power of thier
Dewalt rotory, thus utilizing the product more efficiant..

[Bates Detailing]

3m Super + Heavy Cut compound + Polish of your choice = awesome results .... slower controlled speeds and higher aggression pads are needed for sure other than that of auto :dblthumb2:

[KKYS]

Buff Magic in capable hands = no extra polishing.

[Bates Detailing]

Buff Magic in capable hands = no extra polishing.

One step?


from this :


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to this :



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from this :



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to this :



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[KKYS]

One step?

DAT is your friend.

[Bates Detailing]

DAT is your friend.

:/ Added pics right before your quoting me :/

[Bates Detailing]

I understand doing a much quicker one step polish of a boat - but I can say for those that have not done a boat before that my first boat was about 3 months ago and I have since done over 30 boats (word of mouth) ..... all because others in the area do a one to two step polish and the extra steps we toss in make a MAJOR difference...... sometimes the extra work is worth it for sure :dblthumb2:

[KKYS]

No matter what product we use or if we need to sand
with 1000 grit , we always prep the surface first ,in heavely
oxidized situations. Since Buff Magic, especially pink, has fine DAT jeweling
capabilities, we don't burden the products ablity to cut in to fresh gelcoat and breakdown to a polish by leaving surface decayed particals that clutter a products ability to perform correctly.
We do take an extra step, but we do it on the front end, not the back end.

[Hoytman]

Anthony's work stands on it's own.

However, I recently seen similar work on many boats in a boat yard at Lake Erie. Those folks I spoke with swear by Buff Magic.

Some manufacturers use Buff Magic soley at the factory and buy it by the 50 gallon drums. There is white and pink Buff Magic. The white being more coarse. Both are DAT products.

I recently added some pink Buff Magic to my arsenal to try. I have Meg's #67 One-Step Compound, and some 3M products. I've only gotten to use the #67 which is a fabulous product, but AG doesn't seem to list it on their website and I haven't figured out why.

[scrubs147]

Buff Magic in capable hands = no extra polishing.

Buff Magic is for buffing to a polished shine. Polish is needed to protect the surface from UV and environmental damage.

[freedre]

Buff Magic is for buffing to a polished shine. Polish is needed to protect the surface from UV and environmental damage.


I think you mean "wax/sealer is needed to protect.............."

If not, you are one dumb ass detailer.

Polish provides no protection at all.