NXT Tech Wax 2.0 with Yellow #26

[Groovejet]

Hello all,

I was getting ready to detail my car (http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=635626#) this weekend and had one quesstion.
I am going to start by washing then claying, swirl remover, polish, NXT Tech Wax 2.0, and final step Meguairs #26 Yellow wax.

Question is should I apply the NXT from Meguairs first then the Meguairs #26 yellow wax? Or Vice Versa (http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=635626#)?

My thinking is if I lay down the #26 wax I get that deep rich shine and then get long lasting protection on the shine with NXT wax over it. ANy thoughts or suggestions?

Car: 2008 Silver BMW 335I Coupe (http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=635626#)

Thanks

[bmwgalore]

The NXT should go first, the #26 goes next.

I have a black Alpina B7, the #26 looks insanely gorgeous on it, but it only lasts 2 weeks tops. So I lay some Finish Kare 1000p first and top it up with M26.

[Mike Phillips]

Hi Groovejet, welcome to AutogeekOnline! :welcome:


bmwgalore is correct in that you usually apply the synthetic product first and then apply the carnauba product over it...

How long any wax or sealant will last depends upon how the paint or the LSP is touched after application and things like how and where the car is parked at home, (inside or outside), or at work, (undercover or exposed).

M26 has been around for about 30 years now and has a very loyal following and it does work really well. I have some interesting tidbits posted about this product on this forum somewhere.

Doing a search for DOI should bring them up...


NXT also has an interesting history, I wrote the concept paper for this product and included it in a 65 page report I wrote called, "The Zaino Case Study" back in 2003.


In my collection I have a signed bottle of the original Lab Sample D used for the NXT Auction where a bottle of NXT was sold for $500.00 to raise money for one of Barry's charity's.

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2BarrysAutograph.jpg



I think I still have the paste wax lab sample too...

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2TechPasteLabSample.jpg



Lab Samples are made and poured in the Lab, not the production facility in Nashville, Tennessee. They are made in small batches, kind of cool to get to use some products while they're being created.


Maybe take a read-through this thread...


Topping - Definition - How to Top also called Topping (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/40089-topping-definition-how-top-also-called-topping.html)



:)

[Groovejet]

Ok cool Thanks for the tips. Thanks for the info Mike I will defintely read some of your stuff. Maybe I'll post my results here once I am done.

Thanks again,

[Jaretr1]

I have used both and still have #26 in my garage and #21 (the commercial version of NXT). I have been using #21, and prior had used NXT. Last time around I waxed my car with #26. Honestly, I cant tell the difference between the two. NXT smells good, and goes on and off so easy (the spray wax is crap though, dont buy it or use it). #21 is just as easy to use, but is purple and has a chemical smell. #26 is also easy to use and has a nice scent to it. I use Ultimate Quik Wax or XMT Spray Wax (depends on what flavor I am in the mood for) every other car wash and the durability isnt bad on either of them when the spray wax is used as a booster. I usually go 4 months or longer without reapplying. To be honest, I am not really sure its necessary or beneficial to layer these products. My guess is #26 doesnt have a huge content of carnauba to make much of a difference as far as the look. If you want to layer for the depth of a carnauba, get a good quality carnauba paste in my opinion. The truth is, no matter what LSP you use, the way to ensure you get the best shine and finish is in the prep!

[truckbutt]

M21 has superior polymer technology to NXT and will last months longer. I get 4-6 winter months when topped with Collinite 845. M26 adds a beautiful gloss but not much durability.

[Houckster]

mwgalore is correct in that you usually apply the synthetic product first and then apply the carnauba product over it...

This seems correct but just to play the Devil's Advocate here, why not reverse the order? If you want depth to the shine and #26 will do the job but not last long, I'd experiment with reversing the order. Get the depth of shine with #26 and then protect the #26 with the synthetic. I'm assuming that you would allow for the #26 to cure (8-12 hours?) and then hopefully it would be stable enough to withstand the application of the NXT.

I'm essentially doing that with 3M products. From some articles I found on the Net, the paste wax (#39526) is a hybrid containing carnauba and some supporting chemistry to enhance its durability. The liquid (#39026) has nothing in common with the paste except the name. It's a synthetic and it is apparently much more resistant to burning off than the paste wax is.

Consequently:

I applied several coats of the paste wax and then a couple of coats of the the liquid wax. We'll see if that works.

Comments?

[bmwgalore]

This seems correct but just to play the Devil's Advocate here, why not reverse the order? If you want depth to the shine and #26 will do the job but not last long, I'd experiment with reversing the order. Get the depth of shine with #26 and then protect the #26 with the synthetic. I'm assuming that you would allow for the #26 to cure (8-12 hours?) and then hopefully it would be stable enough to withstand the application of the NXT.

I'm essentially doing that with 3M products. From some articles I found on the Net, the paste wax (#39526) is a hybrid containing carnauba and some supporting chemistry to enhance its durability. The liquid (#39026) has nothing in common with the paste except the name. It's a synthetic and it is apparently much more resistant to burning off than the paste wax is.

Consequently:

I applied several coats of the paste wax and then a couple of coats of the the liquid wax. We'll see if that works.

Comments?

The NXT (http://www.autogeek.net/mg12711.html) has cleaners to fill up light swirls, therefore it will remove the M26.

The M26 on the other hand is a pure wax, no abrasives at all.

[Houckster]

Darn, I forgot about NXT's cleaning properties. Frankly, I look at #26 as more of a cosmetic rather than a protective coating.

[bmwgalore]

Darn, I forgot about NXT's cleaning properties. Frankly, I look at #26 as more of a cosmetic rather than a protective coating.

Yup, it doesn't last long, but it does looks awesome!
No matter what sealant I lay first, I always use M26 on top of it.

[Houckster]

I seriously suspect that there are a number of waxes that can duplicate the shine of #26 but lasts a lot longer. The 3M Perfect-It paste wax I use certainly does and I've used #26 several times.

There's beauty and there's real beauty. For me that's shine plus protection. Recently, I had a bird target me and he scored a direct hit that I didn't discover for a couple of days. The 3M held up very well and the bird poop came off easily without any noticeable etching. Other waxes have not done so well.

[Mike Phillips]

Recently, I had a bird target me and he scored a direct hit that I didn't discover for a couple of days. The 3M held up very well and the bird poop came off easily without any noticeable etching.



And it's easy to think, hope and assume that the chemist that work for 3M would be some of the best in their field.


:)

[Groovejet]

Foamed, washed 2 bucket method with grit guard, Clayed Wheels and car, Swirl remover, Polished, and sealed with Meguair's NXT

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/P7290077.JPG (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/48526)

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[JAF06SE]

Yup, it doesn't last long, but it does looks awesome!
No matter what sealant I lay first, I always use M26 on top of it.

Isn't M26 pretty much the same as Gold Class? Just the "professional grade"?

[Mike Phillips]

Isn't M26 pretty much the same as Gold Class? Just the "professional grade"?

No. M26 is the Pro cousin to Deep Crystal Carnauba Wax.

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/medium/DSC_00222.jpg



Gold Class evolved from Vibrant I believe...

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/671/Vibrant001.jpg

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/671/Vibrant002.jpg


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