Flat Black hood paint

[jws4621]

I have an 84 Mustang with the black hood center. I am not sure but it maybe the original paint on it. It is turning chalky or white. I believe it has wax trapped in it. I did what I probably shouldn't have done and put a cleaner wax on it and it looked better for the time being but I would like to see if I can fix it?

I have looked around and have see alot of people repainting. I would prefer to not do this cause the stripes that go around it are no longer made.

Thanks in advance.


This is what it looked like when I got it sorry for the bad pic

http://i49.tinypic.com/3ykok.jpg

[Mike Phillips]

We had good luck with Wolfgang Exterior Trim Sealant on the flat black stripe on this all original 1970 Mustang Mach 1

We even show applying it to both the matte black stripe AND the matte black paint on the rear louvers.


Video and Pictures - 1970 Mustang Mach 1 Detailing Clinic at AutogeekOnline.net (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/pictures-autogeek-s-car-week/51494-video-pictures-1970-mustang-detailing-clinic-autogeekonline-net.html)

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1460/1970Mach1BeautyShots007.jpg


http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1460/1970Mach1BeautyShots002.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1460/1970Mach1BeautyShots003.jpg


And the matte black wing...

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1460/1970Mach1BeautyShots012.jpg


:)

[Paintxpert]

Twenty eight years old. Ford did not use the best paint on these. Coupled with the fact that it is FLAT further complicates matters. I would say NOT CORRECTABLE using compounds. You will only temporarily mask it. Sell it "as is" without being too sarcastic. People expect to work on a 28 year old acquisition. Paintxpert Shine Since 1969. I polished PLENTY of those cars in the day!

[Mike Phillips]

I have an older thread on MeguiarsOnline on this topic using a Mustang of the same color, but a modern version...


Here's that article,


How to create a dark sheen on flat black plastic (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32565)

Flat black looks cool when it's used to accent components rear window louvers on this Mustang. There are two problems with flat black surfaces

1) Over time the the flat black appearance becomes dull and loses it's dark sheen.

2) There's nothing really on the market targeted and the variety of different flat black components to restore and maintain their appearance.


Part of the problem is the material or the coating that makes up whatever the flat black component is varies greatly from from a thin vinyl tape used for graphics, to flat black paint used to paint components and flat black plastic which is where the pigment is throughout the entire plastic matrix of the component.

Meguiar's doesn't make a product specific to flat black surfaces just like no one else does, at least at the time stamp of the post. When left without options, a car crazy enthusiast has to take what they can get if it's shows to actually help, (solve the problem, and not harm, (cause a problem).

Meguiar's Gold Class Trim Detailer (http://www.autogeek.net/megocltrde.html) is for restoring and maintaining rubber, plastic and vinyl trim, so while it's not specifically for these louvers and the material they are made out of, it does work pretty good.

The way to use it is to gently massage this product onto the surface using a clean, soft foam applicator pad, somewhat like you would rub skin lotion onto our face. Allow to penetrate for a few minutes and then softly wipe all surfaces down with a clean microfiber to remove any excess residue off the surface.

The results are a deep, dark black sheen...



Photos courtesy of MeguiarsOnline
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/1114/FlatBlackTrim000.jpg

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http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/1114/FlatBlackTrim007.jpg

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See what I mean about how black matte finishes become dull and lifeless over time and usually things like repeated washings and exposure to the sun?

Sooner or later you'll need a product that will restore a DARK SHEEN, not stain the black white or make it glossy, shiny or gooey.


We did the above using Meguiar's Gold Class Trim Detailer (http://www.autogeek.net/megocltrde.html)

:)

[Paintxpert]

That Mach one has not seen the abuse the white one has. You can mask it until the sun bleaches it again. Repaint or mask it, those are the choices.

[jws4621]

That is actually a picture of when I bought it. I am not expecting a permanent fix just something to look better when I am out in it. I so far have driven it very little. Is there a product to remove all of the old wax out of the flat paint before I use what was suggested on the Mach I?

And that is a beautiful car. Someday I hope to have one just like that in blue

And yes unfortunately it has seen years of abuse and neglect. The white turned out great with just some claybar and some hand polishing. (before I found this site might go farther now) I am just looking to mask it I guess I know a real fix is probably not in the cards it sits in the garage now so the sun doesn't get to bleach it as much.

[Paintxpert]

Gold class trim detailer. Ill have to get some!!!! Thanks

[Mike Phillips]

For the condition of your matte black stripe I would go with the Meguiar's Gold Class Trim Detailer (http://www.autogeek.net/megocltrde.html) .


It has a lotion like consistency like a skin lotion. Take and wash and dry the car and then carefully massage the Trim Detailer into the graphic stripe like you would skin lotion to dry skin.

Let the product soak in and penetrate. Then gently and carefully wipe the excess off using a soft microfiber towel.

I've worked on a lot of older vinyl graphics and the Meguair's product has worked well to restore live and color. I have NOT worked on anything that looks as bad as the one on your Mustang.

Chances are good smeone did apply wax in an attempt to "do something" to it to make it look better. The problem is you never want to use anything that,


Dries
Dries white


:)

[jws4621]

Thanks a million I will be ordering some Meguiar's Gold Class Trim Detailer (http://www.autogeek.net/megocltrde.html)
ASAP.

Will it also remove the wax that is imbedded in the paint now?

[Mike Phillips]

Somewhere on this forum is a thread about a guy with a matte black finish on his truck, (I think it's a truck), and I "think" he had good luck using a Mr. Clean Magic Eraser?


Hang on I'll see if I can remember a key word to find the thread and do a search.


:)

[Mike Phillips]

Here you go...

Read through the entire thread, you might find the help you're looking for to get it clean BEFORE applying a dressing to restore a deep, dark black sheen.

Removing Wax off Matte Black Paint (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/41273-removing-wax-off-matte-black-paint.html)



:)

[jws4621]

Thanks a trip to the store in order for tonight..