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Wills.WindowsAndWheels
06-25-2012, 03:50 PM
When you look up 'hard paint' on wikipedia there should just be a photo of a Corvette. We've got a few of this bad boys under our belts now but, still every once in a while a curve ball is thrown at us...in this case...it was the hood...i'll explain.

Rick had seen some of our work via write ups, but was still up in the air about who to hire to polish out his beloved C6. From what he told us, he almost hired Euro Detail out here in Arizona, but after talking with another club member, who spoke highly of our work (as we had done his Z06), he decided to give us a call.

His car may have been many things, but dirty it was not. It was obvious he was very particular about his car, but the hood, the hood is what bothered him! We took a look at it when we first got there and could see right away what he was talking about, there were some very deep scratches/swirls in the paint. The whole car was covered in them, but the center point of the hood turned out to be the worst by far (we found that out part way through the detail).

But first thing as first, had to wash it and prep it to get it ready for polishing. So tires, rims and wells were cleaned first...followed by stripping the paint of any old wax and then claying the car free of any bonded contaminants.

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/WheelWells2.jpg


Foam time!


Lots of clearance...

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/WheelWells1.jpg


After they were done it was time to do the prep wash...gotta remove the license plate though, there is always lots of dirt hidden up behind there:

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/LicensePlate2.jpg

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/LicensePlate1.jpg


See, told ya...nasty stuff

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/LicensePlate3.jpg






Half way through our wash a truck drove by...and what was written on the back window was too damn funny to not get a picture of lol:




http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/ExWife.jpg





Ah love, isn't it grand? I say freedom = ex-swirls lol



You could tell he kept the car waxed...the water beaded up very nicely. But a waxed car is not enough....wax doesn't eliminate these:

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/HalogenSwirls10.jpg


And these were what we were there to get rid of.

After examining the car...the consensus was....there were swirls....LOTS of them....everywhere:

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/SunSwirls14.jpg


http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/SunSwirls13.jpg


As you can see above there was also a bit of damage beyond our repair...looked like someone had bumped into the Vette from behind and left some nice wrinkles in the paint....

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/SunSwirls12.jpg


Big swirls...


and little swirls:

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/SunSwirls9.jpg


http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/SunSwirls1.jpg


http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/SunGunSwirls17.jpg

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/SunGunSwirls14.jpg

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/SunGunSwirls12.jpg



And the good ole hood..

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/SunGunSwirls11.jpg



These here were quite deep as well...

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/SunGunSwirls10.jpg


Not so pretty...


http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/SunGunSwirls9.jpg


http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/SunGunSwirls7.jpg



These weren't half steppin' either

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/SunGunSwirls1.jpg


We even found these little suckers hiding between the bottom runner near the rear passenger tire...how they got in there i dont know but they sure were fun to get out without scratching the paint:

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/Rocks.jpg


So, by now i think you get the idea...though it was pampered...it still was in pretty bad shape. Paint in this condition didn't make Rick happy, didn't make us happy and damn sure didn't make the Vette happy! But it's ok....thats why we were there.


As always our first step would be to tape off a test spot and figure out what combo of machine/pad/product and technique would work best.

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/TestSpotHood11.jpg


My sister Dani who was taping off all the trim did the honors of taping off my test spot so i could get our process dialed in while she finished up the remainder of the taping.


After testing our test area with a new microfiber cutting pad along with a cutting compound, it knocked down the swirls quite well...but as was expected, a VERY light haze was left. This is why lighting is SO important...under most circumstances...the paint would have looked awesome as if all defects had been removed, but having multiple light sources we were able to see the haze...which is why we always follow up with a second polishing step to further refine the paint.

The results of this will speak for themselves i think...here is a side by side before and after shot:

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/TestSpotHood7.jpg



THAT is what red is suppose to look like.

A couple deeper ones still remained along the tape line, but they would come out when working on the undone section of the hood, as we always overlap a few inches into the section that we have already worked on, just to make sure if we did miss anything or if there were a few being stubborn, they would still get worked out:

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/TestSpotHood4.jpg


All n' all, the test spot was showing many good things to come, here is a 50/50 shot of the test spot:

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/TestSpotHood3.jpg





One more look...this was before:

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/TestSpotHood1.jpg


WOW!

And this was after:




http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/TestSpotHood2.jpg

Much clearer don't you think?

Wills.WindowsAndWheels
06-25-2012, 03:51 PM
We continued to make our way around the car, I was doing the compounding as usual and Dani was doing the final polishing.

We kept running into these....

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/P1020749.jpg


But made them look like this:

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/P1020748.jpg




Here she is finishing up on the drivers door:

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/Coach.jpg

Eventually we ended up on the other side of the hood, the unfinished side....and for WHATEVER reason, center going towards the passenger side was in horrible shape. I didn't really realize this until i did two compounding passes using the Flex on the center section of the hood...and the hood STILL looked like it had just been gone across with a steel rake. Again, Vette's = hard paint...and thus deep scratches are very difficult to get out. So, it was time to kick it up a notch.

I hooked the makita up along with a Lake Country Synthetic Wool Pad (blue). I had used this baby a few times before and found it to leave lighter marring than other aggressive pads. It still marred, but it was a much easier clean up process than coming behind standard wool.

After going over the center of the hood with the rotary, i noticed a drastic difference, the results were much better. Almost all the deeper scratches had gone the way of the dinosaur, a few remained that required a second pass, but i was seeing much more progress.

I worked the remaining area of the hood...getting rid of the Rick's nightmare lol. I understood his frustration, thats for sure. After compounding the hood looked like this:

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/HoodRotary2.jpg


Leveled...or what many detailers and paint and body shops would call 'Finished' lol. This of course was not even near acceptable...it was good the deeper scratches were gone, but the haze/halo look left from the rotary had to be worked out next.

After a couple of polishing passes, all haze/marring had been removed...and the hood was looking the way we expected it to:

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/LightsFinsihed3.jpg


Well worth the extra effort....a bit closer...

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/LightsFinsihed2.jpg



Excuse the slight blurriness, red is SUCH a hard color to focus in on once it gets dark! Don't worry though, sun shots are coming up soon :)


Now being that this was a convertible, once we finished all the visible paint...it was time to put the top down, because there was more paint to be polished that was hiding on the inside :)

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/Wills2.jpg




Gotta be sure to polish every inch of paint...no corner cutting or exceptions. And of course using a towel to cover the cockpit area so that there was no chance of any polishing dust or polish sling gets on the interior.



http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/Wills1.jpg


The reflections as the sun started to go down were beautiful...enough light to really show the color, but faded enough to not drown out the reflections



http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/Reflection2.jpg



http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/Reflection3.jpg




Turned out pretty good dont ya think?





After untaping the Corvette emblem...the polished paint surrounding it really made it pop:

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/P1020751.jpg



http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/P1020750.jpg





Here is Dani doing some final touch up behind where the license plate attaches:

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/Coach2.jpg




As you can see, there are cords running everywhere! Some of them ran to fans, Rick was kind enough to hook up a couple of his smaller fans to help keep the air circulating in the garage....because for 90% of the detail, we kept the garage door down to allow our lights to highlight what we were working on and to block out the sun that was trying to sneak in and drown out our work lights.

Note that it was about 100 degrees that day, add in halogen work lights and the fact the garage was closed up and guess what....we were working in an Easy Bake Oven! (though in retrospect, after working in 112 the other day, 100 doesn't seem so bad).

Lighting is SO important. We use LED, Halogens and a sun gun....what looks great under a halogen often times will look marred under and LED. Halogens are awesome for seeing deeper defects, the sun gun is good for pin point checking areas for left over swirls/scratches, but the LED is the ULTIMATE marring inspection light. Any light haze or marring or scouring left over after polishing may be able to hide under most lights, but not highly concentrated LED's.



Last but not least, we did another wash to remove all leftover polish/dust and then we applied Fuzion, dressed tires, cleaned rims and windows etc. All the little stuff that makes the detail 'complete'.

Wills.WindowsAndWheels
06-25-2012, 03:51 PM
The end result was awesome. It took paint that looked like this:

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/HalogenSwirls5.jpg




and brought it to this:

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/LightsFinsihed4.jpg



http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/LightsFinsihed5.jpg





These lovlies...

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/HalogenSwirls10.jpg




Were carefully polished out to reveal this:

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/LightsFinsihed7.jpg




http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/LightsFinsihed10.jpg




And these ugly guys here

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/SunSwirls3.jpg



Were givin the boot as well

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/LightsFinsihed10.jpg



http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/LightsFinsihed11.jpg






And remember that messed up hood that drove Rick crazy whenever he'd come out to look at his car under the fluorescent lights...



http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/Finished15.jpg




Now THAT is how paint should look. It felt as soft and as smooth as it looks as well.

I think its ready to roll, dont you?

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/Finished14.jpg




Many lights...no swirls:

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/Finished13.jpg

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/Finished10.jpg


Lights on the back...

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/Finished8.jpg




I loved this shot:

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/Finished7.jpg


Nasty........


http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/Finished6.jpg



http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/Finished5.jpg



The guy in the background is Rick...one of the guys who lived in the neighborhood was driving by and stopped dead in his tracks when he saw the vette sitting in the garage....i mean come on, wouldn't you have stopped too??

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/Finished4.jpg




After finishing the photo shoot and talking with Rick for a while....he assured us he was more than happy with the results and was glad he went with us. That always makes ya feel good :) The next day was the Cruise on Central that we have here in Arizona every year, one of our bigger car shows, so the timing of the detail was PERFECT.



So of course we had to swing by and see how the baby looked in person. I guess the forces of the universe were with us because we had no idea where the car was going to be parked, and the show was PACKED. A few hundred cars easily parked all through out several parking lots. Well...we ended up walking right to it. Here she is sitting under the bright Az sun

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/AtCruiseonCentral.jpg


Is that gloss or is that gloss??

Check out the reflection in the door:


http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/AtCruiseonCentral7.jpg



Again just showing, every inch was polished:


http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/AtCruiseonCentral6.jpg




The hood!!!



http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/AtCruiseonCentral5.jpg




http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/AtCruiseonCentral4.jpg





We looked at literally 100's of cars while we were there, we saw about 3 with paint that was in good condition. Of coruse they all were clean and shiney from a distance, but if you got closer to where you could see where the sun was hitting, the truth was revealed. Swirled paint was 'decent' paint...as many had deeply scratched or...even worse...hologramed paint. Swirls are bad enough, but when you have holograms, that usually means the owner paid someone to 'detail' their car but were unfortunate enough to get one of the many hacks in our business. That pisses me off more than anything...someone getting paid to make a car look worse...and often times condemn REAL detailers for either how long we take to polish out a car or how we over charge.

Well, as the old saying goes, you get what you pay for...in our case, we try to go above and beyond on every detail.

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/AtCruiseonCentral2.jpg




I think we were successful :)

And with it being such a beautiful day with such a beautiful car, we had to grab a couple of pictures with the vette:

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/UsPics1.jpg



http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff374/Wills_WindowsAndWheels/Ricks%20C6%20Corvette/UsPics2.jpg





We sent Rick a text letting him know we thought the Vette looked awesome and the condition it was in surely made it a stand out even amongst so many other awesome cars. He replied back saying "Thanks man, I think it looks great, especially the hood!!"


Thanks all for reading

rider9195
06-25-2012, 03:57 PM
Amazing save!! That vette was messed up. I know there is a recall and a fix for those rocks getting stuck in between the rocker panel and rear quarter panel.

Wills.WindowsAndWheels
06-25-2012, 04:04 PM
Amazing save!! That vette was messed up. I know there is a recall and a fix for those rocks getting stuck in between the rocker panel and rear quarter panel.


thanks Ryan. I didnt know about the recall, when did that get announced? Had no idea it was a common issue...do you happen to remember what caused it?

FUNX650
06-25-2012, 05:54 PM
Amazing save!! That vette was messed up. I know there is a recall and a fix for those rocks getting stuck in between the rocker panel and rear quarter panel.


thanks Ryan. I didnt know about the recall, when did that get announced? Had no idea it was a common issue...do you happen to remember what caused it?

I don't recall, any recall, on this particular issue.
But this DIY was designed by: nakidparts...to stop the dirt and rocks that lodge in the rear fender seam just in front of the rear tire. They are there!

(The problem is due to a large gap in the inner fender liner which allows debris off the tire to enter the inner fender.
I spent about $2.00 to fix mine.)

Instructions:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/Stop_the_Rocks1.jpg (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/47566)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/Stop_the_Rocks2.jpg (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/47567)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/Stop_the_Rocks3.jpg (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/47568)

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/Stop_the_Rocks4.jpg (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/47569)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/Stop_the_Rocks5.jpg (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/47570)

(Press the sticky side in first towards the fender)


And don't fret Wills....I'll get back to you, and your "detail", in just a minute or two!!

:)

Bob

rider9195
06-25-2012, 08:15 PM
Whoops, used the wrong wording. I meant to say a technical service bulletin. It is pretty much what Bob showed above except I think the deal takes the whole rear quarter panels off.

Wills.WindowsAndWheels
07-01-2012, 01:53 PM
I don't recall, any recall, on this particular issue.
But this DIY was designed by: nakidparts...to stop the dirt and rocks that lodge in the rear fender seam just in front of the rear tire. They are there!

(The problem is due to a large gap in the inner fender liner which allows debris off the tire to enter the inner fender.
I spent about $2.00 to fix mine.)

Instructions:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/Stop_the_Rocks1.jpg (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/47566)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/Stop_the_Rocks2.jpg (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/47567)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/Stop_the_Rocks3.jpg (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/47568)

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/Stop_the_Rocks4.jpg (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/47569)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/Stop_the_Rocks5.jpg (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/47570)

(Press the sticky side in first towards the fender)


And don't fret Wills....I'll get back to you, and your "detail", in just a minute or two!!

:)

Bob


Cool Bob thanks for the pics and info :)