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Toy_Cam_Ed
06-23-2012, 11:35 PM
I hear it doesn't require any buffing after it's worked onto the paint. Have you had good results with it? Or if you have any other product suggestions, that would be great. I'm going to be starting a mobile detailing business in the near future, and need a good polish/sealant for a one step process.

rider9195
06-23-2012, 11:38 PM
The no buffing part is not true. You might be thinking about BF Crystal Seal. I have used Poorboys Polish with Sealant and Meguiar's D151 successfully as all in one type products.

glen e
06-23-2012, 11:44 PM
The two are a powerful combo....BF TPnS leaves a slight haze that you buff off, then crystal seal....l My goto sched for the two on a new car is:

Daily driver detail
1. If needed, Clay with ONR lube
2. Blackfire Total Polish and Seal on an orbital with green CCS pad- this leaves almost no haze
3. Remove with BF poly spray or just buff off by hand
4. Blackfire crystal seal or BF Wet Diamond..Crystal seal fastest, no buff at all 
5. Blackfire spray wax or poly spray after weekly washes

Toy_Cam_Ed
06-23-2012, 11:53 PM
The two are a powerful combo....BF TPnS leaves a slight haze that you buff off, then crystal seal....l My goto sched for the two on a new car is:

Daily driver detail
1. If needed, Clay with ONR lube
2. Blackfire Total Polish and Seal on an orbital with green CCS pad- this leaves almost no haze
3. Remove with BF poly spray or just buff off by hand
4. Blackfire crystal seal or BF Wet Diamond..Crystal seal fastest, no buff at all
5. Blackfire spray wax or poly spray after weekly washes
Applying crystal seal after total polish and seal would make it a 2 step process, correct? I would like to keep it to just one step after claying. I need good results while going over the car just once with my DA. Thanks.

glen e
06-23-2012, 11:57 PM
Then just use TPnS....I'm not much into polishing without sealing.....crystal seal is 10 min to put on, I don't see that as more work...

You want a true one step try pinnicle XMT360 but requires buff.

There is no one step I know off that does not require a buff off....

Toy_Cam_Ed
06-24-2012, 12:03 AM
The no buffing part is not true. You might be thinking about BF Crystal Seal. I have used Poorboys Polish with Sealant and Meguiar's D151 successfully as all in one type products.
Meg's D151 sounds intriguing. After reading about it, I may have to give it a go. From what I gather, you would just change pads to get the desired results. Thanks for the heads up.

Toy_Cam_Ed
06-24-2012, 12:06 AM
Then just use TPnS....I'm not much into polishing without sealing.....crystal seal is 10 min to put on, I don't see that as more work...

You want a true one step try pinnicle XMT360 but requires buff.

There is no one step I know off that does not require a buff off....
So total polish and seal is not a true sealant then? The word seal is in the product name, so I just thought that it would be a sealant as well. Thanks.

Detail-Impressions
06-24-2012, 12:39 AM
You may like to look at Poorboys products:
Poorboy's World is proud to announce the arrival of our newest product, Polish w/ Sealant (PwS). This is an AIO (All in One) product that no detailer should be without. We have tested and tested and tested this product to make sure it will be a new staple in everyone's detailing bin. It is a pad dependent product and can be used by hand or any type of machine. By hand it works like a sealant or glaze and by machine can remove swirl marks as well as light scratches and haze, while leaving a sealant behind for protection. I'm sure everyone will be impressed with the glow and slickness that can be had with minimal effort.

Toy_Cam_Ed
06-24-2012, 12:54 AM
You may like to look at Poorboys products:
Poorboy's World is proud to announce the arrival of our newest product, Polish w/ Sealant (PwS). This is an AIO (All in One) product that no detailer should be without. We have tested and tested and tested this product to make sure it will be a new staple in everyone's detailing bin. It is a pad dependent product and can be used by hand or any type of machine. By hand it works like a sealant or glaze and by machine can remove swirl marks as well as light scratches and haze, while leaving a sealant behind for protection. I'm sure everyone will be impressed with the glow and slickness that can be had with minimal effort.
Thanks! Sounds exactly like what I am looking for. Between that and Meg's D151, I should have what I need for most of my jobs.

PA DETAILER
06-24-2012, 05:26 AM
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amazing product. :xyxthumbs: TP&S just dissappears into the paint. i used it by hand. in one step you clean and seal the paint. then i maintain it with BF wet diamond polymer spray.

the crystal seal is also off the hook. one of the best spray sealants out there.

BobbyG
06-24-2012, 06:00 AM
Hey Ed,

I did a little review that you might find helpful...

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/product-reviews/49945-blackfire-total-polish-seal.html

Blackfire Total Polish and Seal does leave a sealant behind but like all "all-in-one" products long term protection could use a bit of a boost.

For a stunning shine top with a quality sealant. Anyone of the following will give you an amazing gloss and outstanding protection...



Menzerna Power Lock (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-power-lock-sealant.html)
Prima Hydro Sealant (http://www.autogeek.net/prima-hydro-seal.html)
Four Star Sealant (http://www.autogeek.net/four-star-ultimate-paint-protection.html)
Blackfire Wet Diamond Sealant (http://www.autogeek.net/blackfire-wet-diamond-sealant.html)
Klasse High Gloss Sealant (http://www.autogeek.net/klashiggloss.html)
Ultima Paint Guard Plus (http://www.autogeek.net/ultima-paint-guard-plus.html)

Mobile detail
06-24-2012, 05:01 PM
If you are looking to go with D151, which I use a lot for 1 step, you really shouldn't top it with crystal seal as the D151 has a wax in it. Now I'm not saying you can't but it just isn't really the process that is supposed to be done.

If your going to go the D151 way, I usally will top it with some Optimum Car Wax. It's super quick to put on and it adds the extra protection that D151 lacks.

D151 is great when you have a DD that doesn't wanna pay for correction but wants the car to look better. I'll usually hit it with a yellow B&S pad and have at it. Time is the biggest factor and if your not getting paid to polish, don't add more steps then what your getting paid to do.

nrsk4u
06-24-2012, 05:27 PM
You may like to look at Poorboys products:
Poorboy's World is proud to announce the arrival of our newest product, Polish w/ Sealant (PwS). This is an AIO (All in One) product that no detailer should be without. We have tested and tested and tested this product to make sure it will be a new staple in everyone's detailing bin. It is a pad dependent product and can be used by hand or any type of machine. By hand it works like a sealant or glaze and by machine can remove swirl marks as well as light scratches and haze, while leaving a sealant behind for protection. I'm sure everyone will be impressed with the glow and slickness that can be had with minimal effort.
:iagree: this product is great!! Finnishes down better and really brightens up the paint.
Poorboy's World Polish with Sealant - 16 oz | Detailed Image (http://www.detailedimage.com/wax.php?id=26613&url=detailedimage.com/Poorboys-World-M1/Polish-with-Sealant-P25/16-oz-S1/)