What am I doing wrong with Klasse AIO???

[brig2221]

I started a thread a little while ago about all of the hazing I had on my cars black paint along with a big scratch.

Well, I decided to go ahead and clean the paint on my hood as I had a few new scratches and all of that hazing.

Sure enough, I buff the hell out of my hood with a nice microfiber towel, and it looks good in the shade in my garage. I then pulled it into my driveway under the full sun. I could not believe it, HAZE GALORE! It looks like I just smudged the stuff everywhere. I was careful to not apply too much, and I used a microfiber towel in it's removal, and I still have crap everywhere.

I'm thinking all of the hazing that is on my car is from the same Klasse AIO that I origiinally applied a few weeks ago, and just never got it buffed out.

I ordered some edge pads along with Poorboys SSR2.5. I was planning on following that up with a coate of Klasse AIO and then some good Carnauba Wax.

All that being said, I don't want to go through all of that work with the PC and the Poorboys only to screw it up afterwards with the Klasse AIO.

What am I doing wrong with this stuff???

[Nuke33]

Maybe you were not working it in long enoough or with enough power im not really sure

[brig2221]

Well,

Here is the thing. I lubricate my applicator with a little QD prior to putting the AIO on. I put about a dime size of the product on, and then proceed to rub it in.

I read everywhere that a little of this stuff goes A LONG WAY. I am having a hard time believe this as when I apply my pad to the paint to start and spread the AIO, it comes off onto the paint pretty quickly, and doesn't spread very evenly or easily. Then it seems not but 5 seconds later that it starts to harden up and produce a white pasty residue.

I proceed to still try and spread it out as best I can along with rubbing until I believe it has broken down. I then remove with a mircrofiber towel and get HAZE EVERYWHERE!

[BILL]

Well,

Here is the thing. I lubricate my applicator with a little QD prior to putting the AIO on. I put about a dime size of the product on, and then proceed to rub it in.

I read everywhere that a little of this stuff goes A LONG WAY. I am having a hard time believe this as when I apply my pad to the paint to start and spread the AIO, it comes off onto the paint pretty quickly, and doesn't spread very evenly or easily. Then it seems not but 5 seconds later that it starts to harden up and produce a white pasty residue.

I proceed to still try and spread it out as best I can along with rubbing until I believe it has broken down. I then remove with a mircrofiber towel and get HAZE EVERYWHERE!



Maybe its me but i prefer AIO by hand only........

[sparkie]

Well,

Here is the thing. I lubricate my applicator with a little QD prior to putting the AIO on. I put about a dime size of the product on, and then proceed to rub it in.

I read everywhere that a little of this stuff goes A LONG WAY. I am having a hard time believe this as when I apply my pad to the paint to start and spread the AIO, it comes off onto the paint pretty quickly, and doesn't spread very evenly or easily. Then it seems not but 5 seconds later that it starts to harden up and produce a white pasty residue.

I proceed to still try and spread it out as best I can along with rubbing until I believe it has broken down. I then remove with a mircrofiber towel and get HAZE EVERYWHERE!
What kind of QD and how much did you put on the pad?

[ScottB]

Klasse AIO is a chemical based paint cleaner with some acrylic protection, it does not have alot (if any) abrasive quality. As such it is not meant to remove or hide swirls, thus a polish or glaze is needed.

[Al-53]

Do not use a QD with Klasse..use a spritz of water....AIO is a water based Acrylic product...and does not react good to silicones in QD's..just spritz the pad with water and rub it in....

Al

[brig2221]

I do all of my Klass AIO application by hand. I used the Mothers QD that came with my clay kit. I didn't put too much on, just a spritz or two to get some lubrication going.

Again, I am only putting a dime size on the pad and am trying to spread it as far as I can, and I can't get the darn stuff off!

I top the Klasse AIO with a Carnauba Wax, so I need the paint to be pretty clean and clear I would think before I put on my wax right? If so, how do I do this???

[William H. Bonney]

I do all of my Klass AIO application by hand. I used the Mothers QD that came with my clay kit. I didn't put too much on, just a spritz or two to get some lubrication going.

Again, I am only putting a dime size on the pad and am trying to spread it as far as I can, and I can't get the darn stuff off!

I top the Klasse AIO with a Carnauba Wax, so I need the paint to be pretty clean and clear I would think before I put on my wax right? If so, how do I do this???There are a number of ways to get the surface clean before waxing, no one is more right than the other but each person has their own way to prep.

You can:

Just wash and clay
Wash, clay and use an abrasive polish
Wash, clay and use a chemical cleaner like AIO
Wash, clay, polish, AIOYou can even remove the claying step if you like although I dont recommend it. Remember, its all in the prep.

[nick19]

I do all of my Klass AIO application by hand. I used the Mothers QD that came with my clay kit. I didn't put too much on, just a spritz or two to get some lubrication going.

Again, I am only putting a dime size on the pad and am trying to spread it as far as I can, and I can't get the darn stuff off!

I top the Klasse AIO with a Carnauba Wax, so I need the paint to be pretty clean and clear I would think before I put on my wax right? If so, how do I do this???

I use Klasse AIO in a 2oz spray bottle. One spray per panel, two for the hood. This is the correct amount needed to apply AIO, or use a pea-sized amount.

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I don't use a QD or water when using AIO. Just apply and go. Do NOT let this stuff dry. Work one panel at a time, and when you're done with that panel, just wipe off. It takes about 30-45 seconds or so to use this product by PC. (average size car) So be sure not to work it in TOO much.

If you use SG, apply via same technique, but this time let SG haze for 30 minutes or more.


Hope this helps....





-Nick :cheers:

[nick19]

There are a number of ways to get the surface clean before waxing, no one is more right than the other but each person has their own way to prep.

You can:
Just wash and clay
Wash, clay and use an abrasive polish
Wash, clay and use a chemical cleaner like AIO
Wash, clay, polish, AIOYou can even remove the claying step if you like although I dont recommend it. Remember, its all in the prep.
I wouldn't recommend using an abrasive polish if you're just trying to prep paint. If you're looking to remove defects, thats one thing, but to prep paint I personally wouldn't go this route, or recommend it; but to each his own.

The best way to prep a car for wax would be..

wash>clay>mild polish like XMT #2 or #1>finishing glaze or AIO>sealant>wax

Again, you can skip the FG if you like, but I use it after ALL polishing, and you can take out the sealant as well. Sealants BEST bond to an acrylic surface, so that's why I use AIO; so the sealant will bond throughly with the surface and give me the best protection possible.

wash>clay>mild polish>AIO>wax

Is a must IMO.