Can you ID this snake?

[Marc Hufnagel]

Saw this one this morning across our driveway, best pics I could get. Round pupil, non-aggressive, stayed still for the pics then slithered away quickly. Searched Illinois snakes but nothing looked to be a great match. Looked to be maybe 2 1/2ft stretched out I'd say.

We're in the Southern 1/3 of the state, the snake went towards a small runoff creek with brush all around it.

http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj584/marchufnagel/a75229a7.jpg
http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj584/marchufnagel/4ed0f116.jpg

[VISITOR]

it's the kind of snake i don't like being around lol...

[gewb]

Looks like a young copperhead.

Regards,
GEWB

[pyles1735]

Yeah I'd make sure you stayed away it does look like a copperhead.

I stepped on one barefoot one time and came close to shitting my pants.

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[A.P.A.D.]

i would agree copperhead!

here is a picture i found by a quick google:

http://www.copperhead-snake.com/copperheadnkh.jpg

[Marc Hufnagel]

Would a young one have round pupils?

[Marc Hufnagel]

i would agree copperhead!

here is a picture i found by a quick google:

http://www.copperhead-snake.com/copperheadnkh.jpg

Yea I did a search but all I had found were much more striking colors. It also was glossy in appearance.

[gewb]

On further exam, it probably isn't a copperhead - looks like I made a common ID error with a type of northern water snake or milk snake. Those two have rounder pupils instead of eliptical and a smaller head. What threw me is the gray-ish backfield coloring which is more like a copperhead.

Regards,
GEWB

[Marc Hufnagel]

On further exam, it probably isn't a copperhead - looks like I made a common ID error with a type of northern water snake or milk snake. Those two have rounder pupils instead of eliptical and a smaller head. What threw me is the gray-ish backfield coloring which is more like a copperhead.

Regards,
GEWB

Now the wife is freaking out after seeing the picture LOL. Water snake you say? Venomous still?

[flyinion]

searching on Google images I'm thinking maybe some sort of brown rat snake? Markings are similar, and they have round pupils.

edit: Also read that round pupils means non-venomous in all but coral snakes.

[LuxuryAutoSpa]

rat snake they all over the south

[Bobby B.]

It's definitely not a Trouser Snake

[Mike Phillips]

Since someone started a thread about snakes, here's one my fiancée killed last week with a Butcher Knife and "yes", it's the real deal, a Coral Snake.

http://www.showcargarage.com/gallery/files/1/StacysPetCoralSnake001.jpg.JPG

http://www.showcargarage.com/gallery/files/1/StacysPetCoralSnake002.jpg.JPG



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[Infinitiman]

As the saying goes
"Red on yellow kill a fellow ( coral snake) red on black venom lack ( scarlet king snake)"


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[VdubbinMI]

Red on yellow, kill a fellow; red on black, friend of jack.

Good riddance on that coral snake. The availability of anti-venom makes this snake the most deadly of North American snakes.

"...The current antivenom stock expired in 2010, after two consecutive expiration date extensions approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. Foreign pharmaceutical manufacturers have produced other coral snake antivenoms, but the costs associated with licensing them in the United States have stalled availability..."

The snake posted by the OP looks to be either a rat or milk snake. We've been seeing them more frequently up here in MI and at first I wasn't sure what it was. They were fatter than most gardner snakes I've seen and it kinda freaked me out. I never had a problem with them as a child but now they give me the chills.