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trencher7
05-17-2012, 08:53 AM
Ok, I have finally popped the lid on a can of Collinite 915 Marque D' Elegance Wax and gave it a try. Instructions say to let it dry to a haze, which I did, but it was a BEAST to remove. I of course waxed my whole car and came back later to remove. Is the best way to do a panel at a time and remove before it dries? Or can you let it dry to a haze and still have an easier time removing? Thanks.

BobbyG
05-17-2012, 09:11 AM
What I've found with all Collinite waxes is they need to be applied VERY thin otherwise they become very difficult to remove.

I apply 98% of all sealants and waxes with my Porter Cable 7424 dual action polisher. This allows me to really spread the wax scary thin, which is ample, so it can properly haze and is easy to remove.

You can of course apply them with a foam pad but thin is in regardless...

Mike Phillips
05-17-2012, 09:12 AM
First, make sure the paint is perfectly clean and smooth as this is a "finishing wax" and should only be used on paint in excellent condition.

Second, practice applying a VERY thin coating.


Third, read this...

A tip for working with waxes, paint sealants or coatings that are new to you (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/tricks-tips-techniques/37279-tip-working-waxes-paint-sealants-coatings-new-you.html)



Forth, once you have the car coated and the wax has dried to a haze, break open a small area on a waxed panel using your best microfiber towel folded 4-ways and then creep out from this spot taking small bites of wax off using a overlapping circular motion with your hand.

Also fold your microfiber towels four ways and wear microfiber gloves.

How to correctly fold and use a Microfiber Towel (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/29230-how-correctly-fold-use-microfiber-towel.html)

Increase Your Grip Strength with Microfiber Gloves (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/tricks-tips-techniques/33009-increase-your-grip-strength-microfiber-gloves.html)


Here's my in-depth article on this technique...

How to break open a coating of wax and remove it by creeping out... (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/28204-how-break-open-coating-wax-remove-creeping-out.html)


I also share it in this video,

Video: How to remove shallow RIDS and how to machine apply both a paint sealant and a finishing wax (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-car-garage-how-videos/48365-video-how-remove-shallow-rids-how-machine-apply-both-paint-sealant-finishing-wax.html)



This how-to video also covers,



RIDS - Random Isolated Deeper Scratches
Removing watches and any jewelery
Using a DA Polisher without the handle
Placing cord over shoulder
Priming the pad on a DA Polisher
Speed settings for removing isolated defects
Downward pressure needed for removing isolated defects
How to clean a pad on the fly
Where and why to mark your backing plate with a black mark
Rotating the body of the tool to keep the pad flat to a panel
Why to allow the pad to stop spinning before lifting the pad off the paint
How to swap backing plates from a 3.5" to a 5"
Machine waxing using 5.5" Hydro-Tech Crimson Finishing pads with Menzerna Power Lock
The "Kissing the Finish" Technique
How to do the Swipe Test to check if a wax or paint sealant is dry
How to remove dried paint sealant using a microfiber bonnet on a dry pad on a DA Polisher
How to clean a microfiber bonnet on the fly with your fingernails
How to apply a paste wax by machine - Souveran Paste Wax
How to carefully wipe a WOWO wax off by hand using Microfiber Gloves and plush Microfiber Towels
How and why to fold a microfiber towel 4-ways to wipe wax off
How to break-open a coat of wax and then creep out to carefully wipe off a coating of wax <<<<
How to do the "Final Wipe"




:)

Mike Phillips
05-17-2012, 09:13 AM
How-to Machine Apply Wax using a DA Polisher (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/pinnacle-wax/28651-how-machine-apply-wax-using-da-polisher.html)

How to Apply Dodo Pastes Waxes by Machine (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/25737-how-apply-dodo-pastes-waxes-machine.html)

How To Apply Mothers California Gold Carnauba Paste Wax by Machine (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/25725-how-apply-mothers-california-gold-pure-carnauba-paste-machine.html)

:buffing:

BuckeyeR/T
05-17-2012, 09:21 AM
One panel at a time for me and very thin or it is impossible. Do it right and the results (look and durability) are really worth it.
Good luck!

trencher7
05-17-2012, 09:26 AM
Thanks all. I see the two big mistakes I made. I haven't waxed my car in 3 months (please don't kick me off this forum) and put this on first. I will make sure to use it as a finishing wax next time and use my PCXP to spread it thin. Thanks!

Kaban
05-17-2012, 10:03 AM
like them already told you....apply any collinite product very very thin. i used to hate my life when i put on too much of 476 and spent over an hour removing it. not I use alot less product and removal is a breeze.

Mike Phillips
05-17-2012, 10:12 AM
Thanks all. I see the two big mistakes I made. I haven't waxed my car in 3 months (please don't kick me off this forum) and put this on first. I will make sure to use it as a finishing wax next time and use my PCXP to spread it thin. Thanks!


This is one of my favorite articles I've written, check it out, lots of info...

The Difference Between a Cleaner/Wax and a Finishing Wax (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/23263-difference-between-cleaner-wax-finishing-wax.html)
Subtitle: How To Choose The Right Wax or Paint Sealant for your Detailing Project



Do the Baggie Test and since you have a Porter Cable, apply a fine cut polish before applying the wax to perfectly prepare the paint to accept the wax and to also ensure it's completely clean, clear and smooth.


The Baggie Test - How to inspect for above surface bonded contaminants (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/27967-baggie-test-how-inspect-above-surface-bonded-contaminants.html)

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/858/PaintCleaningByHand022.jpg



Check out this article,

How to clay, clean and wax paint by hand with Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion and Pinnacle Signature Series II Carnauba Paste Wax (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/25218-how-clay-clean-wax-paint-hand-pinnacle-signature-series-ii.html)

Here you can see I've broken open the layer a wax to create a Shiny Spot. Now from the shiny spot I'll creep out or move out taking small bites of wax off using overlapping circular motion.


http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/858/PaintCleaningByHand018.jpg




This is a good article too, substitute Fine Cut Polish for the words paint cleaner as it applies to your project.



The benefits of a light paint cleaner, cleansing lotion or pre-wax cleaner (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/28519-benefits-light-paint-cleaner-cleansing-lotion-pre-wax-cleaner.html)



While claying will remove above surface bonded contaminants, Pinnacle
Paintwork Cleansing Lotion will remove embedded road grime and pollutants as you can
see when we compare the applicator pad we used on the right to the brand new, clean applicator pad on the left.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/858/PaintCleaningByHand012.jpg




:)

BobbyG
05-17-2012, 11:14 AM
Thanks all. I see the two big mistakes I made. I haven't waxed my car in 3 months (please don't kick me off this forum) and put this on first. I will make sure to use it as a finishing wax next time and use my PCXP to spread it thin. Thanks!

Automotive detailing is as much of an art as it is science.

Developing the skill and technique takes time and these are the little tips that can make life a lot easier for you and bring that finish to the next level.

While sealing and waxing are important washing is equally if not more important.

alko
05-17-2012, 11:27 AM
Take a look at my thread about Griot's Garage Paint Prep. I added something towards the end of the thread about washing the windows again afterwards. Paint Prep is an excellent LSP stripper. However it stainded my windows because I let it sit too long in the sun.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/product-reviews/42503-aww-shucks-review-time.html

OhTwoGT
05-17-2012, 11:52 AM
Like everybody has said, prep is KEY also applying in such thin amounts that you can almost barely see it is the best way. Colly 845 is similiar in that if it isnt applied extremely thin then its a bear to remove.

mwoolfso
05-17-2012, 02:45 PM
I applied 915 to my wife's GMC Acadia about 1 1/2 weeks ago. While I was aware this needs to be applied very thin, the directions on the can stated to use a damp towel or applicator. That made sense so I went that route and applied by hand. I used a damp MF applicator and applied it, maybe 25 min. later I was done with the whole vehicle. I didn't run into any problems removing a barely visible haze. Once you have the technique down this is a keeper for sure so stay the course and continue to practice weekly on a panel.