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dennis hiip
05-16-2012, 11:57 AM
Am I the only one who rarely hose washes my car? I almost exclusivley use the Ultima Concentrate unless it's muddy. I really like that stuff. Sometimes I use a spray wax/detailer. I just don't see a down side to this? Am I missing something? My cars a are always clean and the wax seems to be long lived.

robovalzuniga
05-16-2012, 12:07 PM
I think there's a plenty number of people that use waterless or rinseless washes. I do sometimes, when it's inconvenient to use a hose.

However, I do think that if the car is really grimy, nothing beats a hose, and a foam pre-wash, then a real wash.

cpa5oh
05-16-2012, 12:28 PM
- I'm pretty sure that everytime I've done a waterless wash I've created a bunch of very fine little scratches. And it doesn't make sense to me how it's possible to NOT get more scratching with a waterless wash as opposed to a hose wash - with the hose wash you're hitting it with water and causing alot of the heavier dirt particles to roll off in a wave of water...with a waterless wash you have to wipe that dirt/dust off, dragging it across the paint to some degree no matter how lightly you wipe or how often you change towels.
- With my experiences doing waterless washes, they end up taking about the same amount of time as a hose wash takes (from start to finish including wheels and areas that are easier to get to with a furry wash mitt and a bunch of soap and water.)
- I've had trouble getting the product to come off uniformly (I've noticed streaking and haze...I feel like I really have to be careful with the final wipe to get all of the visible residue up - never have that problem with a hose wash.)

gatoman39
05-16-2012, 02:34 PM
Am I the only one who rarely hose washes my car?.

I am on a cycle that I hose wash my car maybe 10 times a year. But my car is always in a garage and I live in LA so that helps)


- I'm pretty sure that everytime I've done a waterless wash I've created a bunch of very fine little scratches.
Once you have used the atomizer, you will realize that the waterless wash is the way to go. It lays down a uniform pattern and without any effort. There is no scratching on the car and it's way faster than a hose.
http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/autogeek_2209_97021655 (http://www.autogeek.net/1z-pro-atomizer-sprayer.html)

SonOfOC
05-16-2012, 02:41 PM
Only time I do a regular hose and bucket wash is after a compound or polish. Otherwise weekly UWWP or biweekly ONR.

dennis hiip
05-16-2012, 03:34 PM
Once you have used the atomizer, you will realize that the waterless wash is the way to go. It lays down a uniform pattern and without any effort. There is no scratching on the car and it's way faster than a hose.
http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/autogeek_2209_97021655 (http://www.autogeek.net/1z-pro-atomizer-sprayer.html)[/QUOTE]
Thanks for this tip. I'm getting it

RhetoricMixes
05-16-2012, 04:59 PM
I started a thread like this a while back and there were plenty of opinions from everyone. http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/46844-giving-up-traditional-washing.html

swanicyouth
05-16-2012, 05:48 PM
Anyone else using a pressure washer to foam and rinse, than doing an ONR or waterless wash. I know it defeats the purpose of saving water, but I find it to be a third faster, and the pressure washer cleans a all the grime off and cleans the wheels.

Bunky
05-16-2012, 05:52 PM
Anyone else using a pressure washer to foam and rinse, than doing an ONR or waterless wash. I know it defeats the purpose of saving water, but I find it to be a third faster, and the pressure washer cleans a all the grime off and cleans the wheels.

It still can save water overall since it cleans better with less water so the overall process is less depending on how much to rinse.

If you use a standard electric PW you will may use 3 to 4 gallons if you use it 2 minutes (plenty of time to rinse paint/wheels then rinse wheels at end if you use an apc). You will use a lot more when you rinse as you wash plus sheeting the water off. If you use 2 buckets with ONR then that is another 6 gallons.

ScottB
05-16-2012, 05:54 PM
Ultima does make a great rinseless/waterless product.

BostonDetails
05-16-2012, 06:00 PM
I started a thread like this a while back and there were plenty of opinions from everyone. http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/46844-giving-up-traditional-washing.html

This is a hot topic among some for sure. I'm with you OP. I ONR after a storm or when the car is filthy but most of the time it's Ultima or CG ecosmart. If you haven't tried it give it a shot. About $90 for a gallon you dilute to 8 gallons. The wax in it looks pretty good too.

I've washed my car with a hose 2 maybe 3 times in the last year and that was to strip wax before I polished.

Old Tiger
05-16-2012, 06:24 PM
I am on a cycle that I hose wash my car maybe 10 times a year. But my car is always in a garage and I live in LA so that helps)


Once you have used the atomizer, you will realize that the waterless wash is the way to go. It lays down a uniform pattern and without any effort. There is no scratching on the car and it's way faster than a hose.
http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/autogeek_2209_97021655 (http://www.autogeek.net/1z-pro-atomizer-sprayer.html)
I also use a 2 gallon Garden Sprayer. I always pre soak with UWW+ before ONR or 2 buckets. Really helps loosen things up.

Old Tiger
05-16-2012, 06:28 PM
A coating also makes washing any way you want a whole lot easier!

Capa1970
05-16-2012, 07:27 PM
Am I the only one who rarely hose washes my car? I almost exclusivley use the Ultima Concentrate unless it's muddy. I really like that stuff. Sometimes I use a spray wax/detailer. I just don't see a down side to this? Am I missing something? My cars a are always clean and the wax seems to be long lived.


I've almost entirely moved away from the traditional wash. For the past 6 months I've been using Griot's Waterless Waah and just this month, after it ran out, I've started using UWWP and really love it, especially the price.

BWG707
05-16-2012, 07:54 PM
Am I the only one who rarely hose washes my car? I almost exclusivley use the Ultima Concentrate unless it's muddy. I really like that stuff. Sometimes I use a spray wax/detailer. I just don't see a down side to this? Am I missing something? My cars a are always clean and the wax seems to be long lived.

If you keep your car garaged and live in a relatively mild climate and don't drive too many miles I could understand you getting away with only a waterless.