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SilverBullet_01
05-09-2012, 12:48 PM
Need some help, since this is the first time I am going to polish a black car.

These are the steps I plan on performing:

1. wash

2. clay bar

3. wash

4. the main step:

a) Menzerna Super Intensive + orange pad

b) If Super Intensive was not enough for some areas, use:
Menzerna PowerGloss + yellow pad
5. wash

6. Menzerna Super Finish + white pad

7. Menzerna Power Lock Sealant + blue pad

8. leave it for 12 HOURS

9. WHICH WAX?

1) I do not have too many choices except these:

P21 (the old one I believe)
SS2
Pinnacle Souveran Liquid Spray Wax
What should I use?

2) If I have to use Powergloss, do I need to follow up with the Super Intensive, or can I go directly to Super Finish?

3) Do I have the "wash" steps in the right order? Should I change/add/remove any of those?

4) Any other comments are appreciated.

Thank youuuuuuu!

SilverBullet_01
05-09-2012, 01:23 PM
correction for step#6
the product is SF 4500, sometimes called super finish, sometimes ultimate finish

EcoShine_Mobile
05-10-2012, 12:01 PM
Need some help, since this is the first time I am going to polish a black car.

These are the steps I plan on performing:


I like your plan. However, I'm just curious... How long do you think it will take from step 1 to 7? Is it really necessary to leave the sealant on the paint for 12hours?

I'm looking forward to see the results on this one

SilverBullet_01
05-10-2012, 12:38 PM
steps 1-5 are the worst, after those it's a piece of cake :)

it's gonna take a long time, many corrections to be performed, and the car is black, so it shows everything
i will have before and after pictures for sure

for best results/protection it is necessary to leave it on for 12 hrs ... sealant needs to cure to fully bond to the paint

SilverBullet_01
05-11-2012, 02:07 PM
anyone else...

SilverBullet_01
05-15-2012, 11:04 PM
this car has been abused ... instead of "ill use powergloss only where i need it", now I use it pretty much everywhere

after powergloss, I go to super intensive - but when i use my microfiber to wipe it off, i get crazy looking scratches/streaks or whatnot ... i was speechless
anyways, I had to use the third, finer polish to rid of those ridiculous things - and still could not get rid of everything

to get an idea what im working with:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b275/L-U-D-E/Detailing/pic9.jpg

SilverBullet_01
05-16-2012, 01:56 AM
^ i just read what i wrote, maybe i should rephrase it:
powergloss worked great as step1
the surface, after SIP, was acceptable as step2 . Microfiber was then used to clean up the remaining polish, but instead, the towel was leaving marks, and to me those looked like "mini" scratches (the surface looked worse than after step2) - never seen anything like it before ...

took me a while to figure this out, but this was the key -> much finer polish (super finish) was used afterwards and "mini" scratches disappeared even tho the same towel that was leaving "marks" was used.

should have more pics, and the final product, ready by Thursday ... I Hope.

soccer05
05-16-2012, 07:47 AM
Is super finish the same as power finish? Cause I am looking at this chart and I don't see super finish on it (Autogeek Swirl Removers & Compounds Comparison Chart (http://www.auto-geek.net/charts/wax-cut-chart-master.htm)).

SilverBullet_01
05-16-2012, 10:38 AM
super finish is much finer

Menzerna, Menzerna Polishing Compounds Products, Menzerna FMJ, menzerna polishes, menzerna car polish, menzerna nano polish, menzerna final polish, (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-of-germany.html)

soccer05
05-16-2012, 10:46 AM
super finish is much finer

Menzerna, Menzerna Polishing Compounds Products, Menzerna FMJ, menzerna polishes, menzerna car polish, menzerna nano polish, menzerna final polish, (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-of-germany.html)

Do you mean less aggresive than power finish?

SilverBullet_01
05-16-2012, 10:49 AM
super finish - less aggressive, and more shine, since this is a finishing polish
and power finish is more aggressive, less shine, used for polishing

Newdetailer1
05-16-2012, 10:58 AM
Does PL really need 12hrs? Please direct me to the notes.

SilverBullet_01
05-17-2012, 12:00 AM
I'm not sure it PL is any different, but too many people said that sealant must cure for 12 hrs. ( and I listen to them :) )

The better it bonds to the paint, the better protection!

Wolfgang mentions it here: Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant delivers a deep, wet, liquid shimmer unlike anything you can imagine. (http://www.autogeek.net/wg5500.html)

The same should apply for the PL