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foamingcarwash
05-07-2012, 10:13 PM
My client wants me to jump into his classics this is my first time working on single stage paint The car does have swirls What I need is some advise on what products to use I have already went through,

The Secret to Removing Oxidation and Restoring a Show Car Finish to Antique Single Stage Paints (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/25304-secret-removing-oxidation-restoring-show-car-finish-antique-single-stage-paints.html)


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How would I clean and restore the top
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foamingcarwash
05-08-2012, 10:43 AM
Feed back please

Porsche Pilot
05-08-2012, 11:05 AM
What products do you have on hand?

Mike Phillips
05-08-2012, 11:23 AM
From my article list (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/23722-articles-mike-phillips.html), here's something on restoring antique vinyl tops...


Vinyl Top Care and Maintenance

How To Restore and Protect a Vinyl Top using 303 Products (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/31874-how-restore-protect-vinyl-top-using-303-products.html)




As for the paint, like Ed posted, what do you have for,

Compounds
Polishes
Waxes
Pads
Tools


You can easily remove the majority of the swirls and scratches out of single stage black paint with a medium cut polish without the risk of removing too much paint using a more aggressive compound.


Single stage paint is actually fun to work on in my opinion. If this is you're first time I think you'll like it more than working on clear coats. You'll see pigment coming off and onto your pads and microfiber towels, just wash as normal after you're done with this project.


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Mike Phillips
05-08-2012, 11:25 AM
My article on restoring single stage paint is mostly for barn treasure, cars with single stage paint that has oxidized and is in horrible shape.


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foamingcarwash
05-08-2012, 01:33 PM
What products do you have on hand?


From my article list (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/23722-articles-mike-phillips.html), here's something on restoring antique vinyl tops...


Vinyl Top Care and Maintenance

How To Restore and Protect a Vinyl Top using 303 Products (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/31874-how-restore-protect-vinyl-top-using-303-products.html)




As for the paint, like Ed posted, what do you have for,

Compounds
Polishes
Waxes
Pads
Tools


You can easily remove the majority of the swirls and scratches out of single stage black paint with a medium cut polish without the risk of removing too much paint using a more aggressive compound.


Single stage paint is actually fun to work on in my opinion. If this is you're first time I think you'll like it more than working on clear coats. You'll see pigment coming off and onto your pads and microfiber towels, just wash as normal after you're done with this project.


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I could order whatever is needed My client has 7 other classics he wants us to restore

Polish:
M105
M205
Menzerna Super Intensive PO 83
Menzerna Super Finish PO 106
Griots Garage Polish 1,2,3 & 4


Tools
GG 3" Random Orbital
GG 6" Random Orbital
Yellow CCS
Orange CCS
White CCS
Blue CCS
Grey/Black CCS

Wax/Sealant
P21S
Collinite #845
Menzerna Power Lock

Mike Phillips
05-08-2012, 01:45 PM
Do a Test Spot with the Menzerna SI 1500 with a white polishing pad on the 6" Griot's DA Polisher on the 5 or so setting for about 6-8 Section Passes and then inspect the results.

If you still see swirls, at least enough that you want more correction then try the same polish with an orange cutting pad.

If one of the above combos work then go for it and focus on the task at hand. Avoid buffing on any raised body lines or edges.

If the above doesn't work then substitute the M105 with one or the other white/orange pads. Normally single stage black paint is pretty soft as the pigment is carbon black, basically soot mixed with resin and the soot makes the resin, (resin = paint), softer not harder.

Then finish out with the SF 4000 and then go with the Menzerna Powerlock and if you want, top with either of the two traditional waxes.

Here's this for reference. Menzerna USA has changed their products names and it's time for everyone to keep up with the changes.




Menzerna - New Names and Product Numbers (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/products-guides/47067-menzerna-new-names-product-numbers.html)


Menzerna has introduced all new labels and product names for identifying their products. I know it's easy to stick with what you know and change can be hard but the new product names and identifying numbers are here to stay so might as well make the switch when talking and typing about them..




PG 1000 – PowerGloss Compound (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-powergloss-compound.html) (S34A)


SI 1500 – Super Intensive Polish (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-po83-si1500.html) (PO83)


IP 2000 – Intensive Polish (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-intensive-polish.html) (PO91E)


PF 2500 – Power Finish Polish (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-polish-po203.html) (PO203)


FF 3000 – Final Finish Polish (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-final-polish.html) (PO85U)


SF 4000 – Super Finish Polish (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-nano-polish-po-106-fa-finishing-polish.html) (PO106FA)


SF 4500 – Super Finish Polish (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-final-finish-po85rd.html) (PO85RD)


Menzerna Power Lock Polymer Paint Sealant (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-power-lock-sealant.html)


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