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HighEndDetail
03-20-2007, 09:39 PM
How would I discribe the new Pinnacle XMT #4 Heavy Duty Swirl Remover


I would start off by saying it is like liquid sand paper. And if you listen to the sound when you unscrew the cap, you can hear the abrasives. It has a peach type color, and smells like a compound. It does it's job and finishes down real well. I chose to use my new EDGE pads. I wanted to see what I was walking into. And went with the white polishing pad first, it worked. But it didn't hit some of the more deeper scratches. So I up'd it to the green edge pad.
Bingo that did it.
I did the hood and left side of with XMT4, working very slowly. Spending a few seconds in one spot at a time. Going back and forth, up and down, and any way else. I was very happy with the results, removed almost all the marks. And killed the water spots on the hood. Did about 95% removal. Working time was great, no drying out of product. I did mist the pad before each panel. I then used PB PwS on the other side of the pad, just to cover my butt. On the hood and left side. Then I had an idea, I mixed 1 part XMT4 and 2 parts PB PwS on the right side of the vehicle. It didn't work as good as the XMT4 alone. But it made that side go faster.

I was very impressed with the new XMT4, and will keep it in my arsenal.

It worked just like the bottle said it would. I did use a little too much product this time. I did 4 chic pea size dots, I will have to use 2-3 dots next time per panel.

I tried the DP Premium Surface Shield






Talk about slickness, on a scale of 1-10 I give it a 10+ on that


It went on easy, and dried quickly. I left it on for about 30-45min. And removed it with the cobra jr. towel. And about an hour later it was so slick, I don't think anything could stick to it.

You can see some scratches and spiderwebbing in the sun
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m70/Zainodude/IMG_2679XMT4.jpg
Not as bright,and a little dull
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m70/Zainodude/IMG_2680XMT4.jpg
Green EDGE pad it looked new when i started
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m70/Zainodude/IMG_2681XMT4.jpg
After XMT4
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m70/Zainodude/IMG_2682XMT4.jpg
Now with DP Premium Surface Shield
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m70/Zainodude/IMG_2710XMT4.jpg
The cat protecting the goods:D
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m70/Zainodude/IMG_2709XMT4.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m70/Zainodude/IMG_2700XMT4.jpg
For killerwheelshttp://www.peachstateposse.com/forum/images/smiles/seeya.gif
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m70/Zainodude/IMG_2706XMT4.jpg
More depth from the XMT4 then PB PwS
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m70/Zainodude/IMG_2684XMT4.jpg
XMT4 and PB Pws mix
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m70/Zainodude/IMG_2691XMT4.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m70/Zainodude/IMG_2694XMT4.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m70/Zainodude/IMG_2703XMT4.jpg

Jimmie
03-20-2007, 09:47 PM
Thanks Ed. Enjoyed your write-up. Truck looks awesome. Is it yours?

Nica
03-20-2007, 09:50 PM
Awesome review, really like the way you compared XMT #4 oh and specially on the color.

So one pass of XMT #4 and you got it to LSP ready? I thought that it would leave some scratches but I have used XMT #3 and almost every time I use it I've been able to get it to go straight to a LSP

Now I don't know if it's me but the picture showing the mix dosen't look that good, like I said not sure if it's just me though. oh never mind I just went and read your post again it's not just my eyes seeing things...very nice comparison.

Thank you for sharing, this is what I've been waiting for a very nice review thank you....oh yea nice mug shot hehehe

bambo2888
03-20-2007, 09:55 PM
wow, man, thats a great write up and an awesome outcome. I;m going to HAVE to get a bottle or two of this soon! thanks!

justin_murphy
03-20-2007, 10:22 PM
Nice Ed!

Glad you like it.......I knew you would. By the way, that's one helluva write up and pics.

Thanks bro!

I will be tackling a green Tacoma tomorrow with #4.

nick19
03-20-2007, 10:26 PM
Looks great!! :applause:

One question, have you used higher end polish or OC? Something lighter on this truck?


I've used far less aggressive polishes and gotten the same result. It looked like maybe some oxidation in the paint. Not sure if you really needed a compound for this one.


http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/P1010232.JPG



http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/P1010235.JPG



To this:



http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/P1010239.JPG



http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/P1010242.JPG



http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/P1010241.JPG


End result:


http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/P1010251.JPG
(EDGE Yellow pad and oxidation)

With DP's SSR and OC. Half-n-half. Took two passes to get it like this.


Not saying I don't agree with the results, they are stunning! But could a less aggressive polish have been used?

I'm curious to use this on a SEVERLY swirled car.

Nuke33
03-20-2007, 10:40 PM
Looks great, Nice write up!

yardie
03-20-2007, 10:48 PM
Nice write up and great pics, this was what I was waiting for. :cheers:

supercharged
03-20-2007, 10:58 PM
Nice review, I'll add that product to my wish list.

Meghan
03-21-2007, 04:29 AM
Very nice, thanks for taking the time to write the review Ed.

nick19
03-21-2007, 04:31 AM
Very nice, thanks for taking the time to write the review Ed.

You're up early! Long day ahead?

I've been playing poker online all night, and winning... so I have an excuse :D

justin_murphy
03-21-2007, 05:19 AM
Nick19,
I too have used polishes that "have got the job done". It's takes longer or looks different than XMT#4. This new compound will allow me to accomplish my task faster and with the desires results.

Plus, I simply love this line up.

nick19
03-21-2007, 05:26 AM
Nick19,
I too have used polishes that "have got the job done". It's takes longer or looks different than XMT#4. This new compound will allow me to accomplish my task faster and with the desires results.

Plus, I simply love this line up.
I totally agree with that comment. I would rather use something less aggressive, especially just for some light oxidation and light swirl removal. It's not like his truck was COVERED in severe swirls.

We preach the "least aggressive product first" but it seems this is often ignored. I would have saved some clear coat, and taken additional time. But then again, I'm not a volume detailer. If I work on 4 cars a week, I'm happy. (Remember, I'm only 19 and still a FT student)

I hope you don't take this is a way it's not intended to be. Just merely a comment. I am sending a PM your way as well Justin.





-Nick :cheers:

AL417
03-21-2007, 05:56 AM
Nice write-up. Looks like XMT4 may be the go to product for tougher jobs. Thanks for taking the time to pass along this information and your thoughts. The truck looks really good.

justin_murphy
03-21-2007, 06:22 AM
Nick19,
I took it as a conversation. That is all bro! LOL!

With more experience, one can start out with an aggressive combo and work it until the results are generated. This is done by speed, pressure and time.

This is how we detailers get a tough combo like this to finish down LSP ready with no more polishing.