Haze Issue

[dudesweet]

First of all, I'm a newb. But this latest issue prompted me to seek the counsel of the AutoGeek community. I'm fairly new to detailing at this level, so I've got a lot to learn.

My cousin brought me his Inifiniti, which was a horrible mess. And black, no less: [before-swirls_infiniti.jpg (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=11494&stc=1&d=1334844984)]

The car came out great!
[after-hood_infiniti.jpg (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=11495&stc=1&d=1334844984)]

But the trunk just didn't come back with a mirror-like finish. The haze in the "before" picture [before-haze_infiniti.jpg (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=11496&stc=1&d=1334844984)] came out the same only shinier/glossier.

As far as the products I used, my steps were as follows using a PC 7424 XP:
M105, LC CCS 6.5" Orange
Optimum Polish II (http://www.autogeek.net/opt400.html), LC CCS 6.5" Green Polishing
Meguiars Carnauba Plus, LC CCS 6.5" Blue

One of the things that seem like it might help based on what I've read on the forums would be to change my pads to smaller foam (5.5" thin) or using Surbuf pads particularly in that first step. Any other thoughts?

It was a little frustrating since the rest of the car came out GREAT, and the trunk just didn't take. And paint on the hood and roof were nearly as faded but ended up with a mirror shine.

Thanks in advance!

[Danube]

You may find that some panels on the car were previously resprayed thus the difference in result.
5.5" pads will provide a bit more cut then ccs.
Surbuf pads may be better option or even MF system from megs. In any event do a few test spots to see ..

[RhetoricMixes]

What year is his inifniti? Ive had issues with the trunk lid of my 2010 since i got it, never comes out as glossy as the rest of the car for some reason.

[dudesweet]

What year is his inifniti? Ive had issues with the trunk lid of my 2010 since i got it, never comes out as glossy as the rest of the car for some reason.

It's a 2005.

Thanks for the input, Danube. I'm gonna give that a try.

[RhetoricMixes]

Its probably a area that got resprayed at some point like danube said. Regardless it looks like you did an excellent job on the paint.

[Mike Phillips]

I'm not sure what year Infinity started using self-healing paints? If this car has a self-healing paint then this could be the root cause of the problems.


Lots of good information in this thread...

Swirls on '08 Infiniti G37s - Self-Healing Paint ? (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/26609-swirls-08-infiniti-g37s-self-healing-paint.html)


If it does have self-healing paint the only polishes I've read that people have had good luck using on it were the Menzerna brand.


:)

[dudesweet]

Self-healing paint? So they sprayed it with Dr. Colorchip? Thanks for the input, Mike. I'll read that thread.

Appreciate the kudos, RM. It's from hours of watching Mike's videos...training fledgling detailers like Mr. Miyagi.

[Mike Phillips]

Self-healing paint? So they sprayed it with Dr. Colorchip?




Not quite... self-healing paint was an experiment that went bad on consumers...

Do some searching on Google, find out when Infiniti started spraying self-healing paint and which models. It's horrible paint to buff.


:)

[Mike Phillips]

I did a quick search on Google using this search term...

Here's a few links, looks like they were using Self-healing paint back in 2005

Infiniti EX35 Model History and List of Models (http://www.nadaguides.com/Cars/2012/Infiniti/EX35/Model-history)

Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/####/Infiniti_EX)



If you don't have some Menzerna polishes or Wolfgang Polishes I would recommend getting some, especially if you're going to be buffing out more cars in the future as they're very good no matter what you're working on.

Also consider letting someone else have the blessing and turn the detailing project down...


:)

[dudesweet]

I did a quick search on Google using this search term...

Here's a few links, looks like they were using Self-healing paint back in 2005

Infiniti EX35 Model History and List of Models (http://www.nadaguides.com/Cars/2012/Infiniti/EX35/Model-history)

Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/####/Infiniti_EX)



If you don't have some Menzerna polishes or Wolfgang Polishes I would recommend getting some, especially if you're going to be buffing out more cars in the future as they're very good no matter what you're working on.

Also consider letting someone else have the blessing and turn the detailing project down...


:)

This is helpful. Thanks again, Mike. :props:

I did this car as a favor...not a regular occurrence by any means. But I really enjoy doing this. Probably too much (according to my wife). Oddly enough, my cousin has a friend with a silver 2005 G35 that wants me to have my way with his car. I ordered some Surbufs yesterday, and I guess I should add an order of Menzerna today. This is turning out to be an expensive hobby.

[embolism]

You may find that some panels on the car were previously resprayed thus the difference in result.
5.5" pads will provide a bit more cut then ccs.
Surbuf pads may be better option or even MF system from megs. In any event do a few test spots to see ..

MF system is not supposed to be used for repaints (but some have reported no issues)

I think a diminishing abrasive would finish down best on this paint. Maybe some Menz 106FA or CG Blacklight (not a polish but really amps up the gloss)

[Danube]

MF system is not supposed to be used for repaints (but some have reported no issues)

I think a diminishing abrasive would finish down best on this paint. Maybe some Menz 106FA or CG Blacklight (not a polish but really amps up the gloss)


D300 is not supposed to be used with foam/wool pads but it works like a charm.

Theory (and there is a lot of it in the detailing) is one thing, but in practice - it's different.