Wetsanding advice needed

[zckid]

Hello everybody.

I'd like to have some advice regarding wetsanding uneven paint. Worse that orange peel. Some sort of paint clotting.

Don't have a ptg. Here are some pics.

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad141/zckid/detailing/caveman%20vitz/IMG_7269.jpg

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad141/zckid/detailing/caveman%20vitz/IMG_7262.jpg

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad141/zckid/detailing/caveman%20vitz/IMG_7261.jpg


http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad141/zckid/detailing/caveman%20vitz/IMG_7257b.jpg


This is on a Toyota Vitz.

My buddy has a Honda Civic with these types of defects on a panel that had been resprayed some 3 years back. He's got quite some orange peel too. He wants to remove them and get a flat surface on his car.


Do I wetsand the paint bulges, (don't know the exact term for those defects.)?

or any other way to flatten the paint? I'm afraid that wetsanding will may just strip the clear and paint on these protuberant areas? :confused:


Thanks for your advice :wavey:

Zaid

[Flash Gordon]

Do the cars in your country have a rust problem? I think thats painted over rust

[Dan C]

Run stay away do not do anything unless he signs a waiver releasing you of any liability!

[Vegas Transplant]

Know when to hold them...know when to fold them...know when to walk away...know when to run...:bolt:

Your reputation is at stake here hand.

[zckid]

Run stay away do not do anything unless he signs a waiver releasing you of any liability!


Know when to hold them...know when to fold them...know when to walk away...know when to run...
:bolt:

Your reputation is at stake here hand.

Thanks. this is getting me some fear.


Do the cars in your country have a rust problem? I think thats painted over rust


thanks for the reply flash. I doubt no. the red car is wrongly resprayed, been like this for months.

Is the below surface prep a problem?

I've done a part on the car.

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad141/zckid/detailing/caveman%20vitz/IMG_72751430.jpg

the Befores and Afters

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad141/zckid/detailing/caveman%20vitz/panoramax1.jpg


4 x zoom

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad141/zckid/detailing/caveman%20vitz/panoramax4.jpg


4 x zoom on previous pic

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad141/zckid/detailing/caveman%20vitz/panorama4x4.jpg

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad141/zckid/detailing/caveman%20vitz/72801638.jpg

[Flash Gordon]

Incredible!

I should be asking you for advice!

[Vegas Transplant]

If you didn't already have your doubts, then you probably would not have posted the thread.

Happy detailing hand...:buffing:

[Dan C]

what did you do hit it with 1000 1500 and 2000 then buff?

[zckid]

Incredible!

I should be asking you for advice!

Oh don't embarass me Flash!

You were the 1st to pm me when I started learning on the forums. (TID). ;)

To quote you: "The rotary is not really as tough as ppl make it out to be. The Makita 9227c is the one I use.A little practice and patience and your good to go"

Still learning :buffing:


Best Regards buddy,

Zaid

[Kris R]

Very impressive work my friend! Was the entire car like that?

[Mike Phillips]

Hello everybody.

I'd like to have some advice regarding wetsanding uneven paint. Worse that orange peel. Some sort of paint clotting.

Don't have a ptg. Here are some pics.

http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad141/zckid/detailing/caveman%20vitz/IMG_7269.jpg











Do I wetsand the paint bulges, (don't know the exact term for those defects.)?


Zaid


Hi Zaid,

You can wetsand, flatten out and remove the orange peel.

As for the bulges, it's highly likely these are areas of "lifted paint" and under the paint surface is an air gap where the paint has lifted away from the panel.

If you sand too much you'll expose the panel and leave a huge section of exposed panel.

My advice is to have your friend/customer learn to live with these defects or consider removing the paint down to the panel, correctly preparing the surface for paint and then repainting the panel or the car.


:)

[SpoiledMan]

I'll agree with Mike. Sanding and buffing that area will likely end with bad results.

[zckid]

what did you do hit it with 1000 1500 and 2000 then buff?

I went with the least agressive i had. 2000 until flat!

Only compounded: Menz pG (old one), LC wool, makita

thnks God came out nice

[Mike Phillips]

I went with the least agressive i had. 2000 until flat!

Only compounded: Menz pG (old one), LC wool, makita

thnks God came out nice


Does that include sanding the bubbled out areas flat? Or just the areas with orange peel?


Either way, congratulations!


:dblthumb2:

[slickooz]

Did you wetland it by hand? It came out great by the way!