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Nick McKees37
03-03-2012, 01:58 PM
Have you evaluated the way you wash your car lately? If not, you probably should. Water restrictions are on the rise and people are becoming more conscious of the environment. In the last several years we've seen innovations in the surface care industry that have allowed us to wash our vehicles in ways we never thought possible.

A couple years ago Dr. David Ghodoussi, owner and founder of Optimum Polymer Technologies (http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-wax.html), introduced a product called No Rinse Wash & Shine, better known as "ONR." ONR has changed the way we wash our cars and and as a result, it has enabled us to lower our water consumption considerably. While various car care manufacturers have since introduced their own rinse-free car wash products, ONR is recognized as the product that originally defined the category.

When the news leaked that Dr. David Ghodoussi would be introducing a new formula of the much-loved ONR, it was questioned how the current formula could even be improved upon. How do you take what many consider the best, and make it better? At first it was assumed that he would be adding wax to the formula, as that's the current trend with rinse-free car wash products. However, that wasn't the case with the new formula ONR. Dr. David Ghodoussi did was he does best, and that's taking an excellent product and making it easier to use while increasing the gloss that it provides.

What better way to put a new rinse-free car wash product to the test than filthy black paint?




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The new formula ONR is still vibrant blue in color with the same addicting scent. It mixes once ounce per two gallons of water just like before.

To successfully perform a rinse-free car wash, you will need a second bucked filled with clean rinse water and a Grit Guard insert (http://www.autogeek.net/grit-guard.html).




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After mixing up the solution I let my wash media of choice, several Cobra Gold Plush Jr. microfiber towels, soak in the solution for several minutes. While they were soaking up the super slippery polymers, I sprayed the area I would first be cleaning with a solution of ONR mixed into a spray bottle.

Having the surface wet before you start a rinse-free car wash ensures you don't scratch or mar the finish upon first contact with your wash media. This is a critical step for vehicles that are heavily soiled. Before you start washing a panel, simply spray a liberal amount of ONR properly diluted (1 or 2 ounces per quart of water)




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After the towels soaked in the wash solution for several minutes and the panel to be washed was pre-treated, I got started. It was evident right away that the new formula ONR provides more lubricity than the previous version. Lubricity is a very important attribute of a rinse-free car wash product as it lessens the likelihood that scratches will be induced into the finish.

I prefer to use a plush microfiber towel when performing a rinse-free car wash. A plush microfiber towel folded into a manageable size isn't cumbersome to hold and gives you eight sides to work with. Choose your wash media wisely as it is critical to performing a safe rinse-free car wash.




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Here you can clearly see where I've cleaned.

When performing a rinse-free car wash you clean one panel at a time and then rinse your wash media of choice. This is where the second bucket with a Grit Guard insert comes into play.




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When speaking to Dr. G on the phone prior to releasing the new formula ONR, he put a lot of emphasis on how the new formula was easier to dry and didn't streak as much when compared to the previous version. This is noticeable right away as the new formula requires less drying time and leaves the surface feeling less "wet."

When performing a rinse-free car wash, you dry each panel after you wash it. I've found the "blotting" method to be the most effective means of drying when performing a rinse-free car wash. Fold your drying towel of choice into a manageable size and simply blot the area that you're drying.




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After safely washing the entire vehicle, I stood back to admire the glossy, wet-looking black paint. The previous version of ONR was no slouch in the gloss department, but the new formula provides even more gloss and leaves the paint feeling slicker.




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Is the new formula ONR better than the previous version? Absolutely. Is it better than the other rinse-free car wash products available? With so many excellent rinse-free car wash products to choose from that each feature their own unique characteristics, you will have to determine which one you like most by trying them all. But I can tell you that ONR, sometimes referred to as Original Rinseless Wash, will continue to be the benchmark for which other rinse-free car wash products are compared to.

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Detail_Dude
03-03-2012, 08:47 PM
Great write-up, Nick! This product sounds like a keeper.

Tell me, would you consider that black paint to be 'hard' or 'soft'?

FUNX650
03-03-2012, 09:05 PM
Very Nice Review, as is the norm for you, Nick. :dblthumb2:
Thanks.

BTW:
This "old dog" learned a "new trick" from you today!
(My mixing ratio has been off a hair or two for the pre-wash spray solution when ONR'ing heavily soiled vehicles. :doh: )

:)

Bob



-The new formula ONR is still vibrant blue in color with the same addicting scent. It mixes once ounce per two gallons of water just like before.

-I sprayed the area I would first be cleaning with a solution of ONR mixed into a spray bottle.
Having the surface wet before you start a rinse-free car wash ensures you don't scratch or mar the finish upon first contact with your wash media. This is a critical step for vehicles that are heavily soiled. Before you start washing a panel, simply spray a liberal amount of ONR properly diluted (1 or 2 ounces per quart of water)

Jomax
03-03-2012, 09:08 PM
Great review, gotta give it a shot!

embolism
03-03-2012, 09:40 PM
nice review Nick

I'm assuming this new version will address the weakness of the previous version at QD dilution.

Have you had a chance to test it as a QD yet?

oldmodman
03-04-2012, 04:37 AM
Oh well.

It will be quite a while before I try Version 3. Since I still have over a gallon of Version 1 left.

Rix6
03-04-2012, 05:40 AM
Great write-up, Nick! This product sounds like a keeper.

Tell me, would you consider that black paint to be 'hard' or 'soft'?I'll answer for Nick because I've owned the exact same car (2009 G37S Black Obsidian) since May 2009. It is soft. Softer than ice-cream soft. If a fly lands on it, the paint scratches soft. Pollen is like sandpaper soft. You look at it and it scratches soft. Don't get me started on cats!

That said, whenever I clay it and slap on a coat of megs ultimate wax as a "temporary measure" placeholder type of thing to tide me over until I'm willing to take the time to do a proper correction, it looks fantastic.

Bunky
03-04-2012, 07:19 AM
Nick, are you taking work home again? :D

Thanks for the report. It is definitely on my want list for Detail Fest since as you say it is a the product that all our products are compared against.

vet
03-04-2012, 08:53 AM
It'll be a while for me too, as I just got 2 gallons on BOGO. My intent is to make pre-wash, QD, and clay lube, so it might not last as long as I think.

I was a skeptic, but now a believer in ONR. Great review Nick!

Klasse Act
03-04-2012, 09:45 AM
Great write up there for sure, great color to try it out on as well, probably helped sell a few thousand gallons right away!

The first time I tried ONR I pre-sprayed the car down with my quick detailer solution of ONR, before I even came in here to the forum, just made sense on a heavily salted and dirty car, it came out flawless, I was bit by the bug that's called ONR right away. I have 1/2 gallon left and can't wait to try out the new stuff for sure:dblthumb2:

Does anyone know if ONR won some type of award to break through product of the year when it came out?

Setec Astronomy
03-04-2012, 11:26 AM
Does anyone know if ONR won some type of award to break through product of the year when it came out?

ONR was not the first product of this type. The original rinseless was QEW. When I came to detailing forums in 2004, that was what everyone was using for rinseless, but pretty much everyone switched to ONR when it came out. QEW appears to have come out in the 90's, and it was for the RV market; I don't quite understand why that is, but then I don't have an RV.

Klasse Act
03-04-2012, 12:27 PM
ONR was not the first product of this type. The original rinseless was QEW. When I came to detailing forums in 2004, that was what everyone was using for rinseless, but pretty much everyone switched to ONR when it came out. QEW appears to have come out in the 90's, and it was for the RV market; I don't quite understand why that is, but then I don't have an RV.

I didn't know that, thanks for the info. Is there something so much different in the ONR compared to the other product? You know, like AA was the first thing people would use on their tires back in the day but something came along afterwards that made AA completely useless, LOL! I mean, AA is now a verb, no longer a noun....."I forgot to Armor All my tires!", certainly noone uses that stuff anymore, right?

Pats300zx
03-04-2012, 12:38 PM
Great review Nick...

Vegas Transplant
03-04-2012, 12:44 PM
ONR was not the first product of this type. The original rinseless was QEW. When I came to detailing forums in 2004, that was what everyone was using for rinseless, but pretty much everyone switched to ONR when it came out. QEW appears to have come out in the 90's, and it was for the RV market; I don't quite understand why that is, but then I don't have an RV.

1.Might not be THE answer but maybe due to the cost -$120 just for a wash.
2.Most DIY rv washes end up streaked and spotted by the less informed.

Setec Astronomy
03-04-2012, 01:07 PM
Is there something so much different in the ONR compared to the other product?

Anectdotally, QEW relies on a wax for encapsulation/lubrication, while ONR relies on polymers.


1.Might not be THE answer but maybe due to the cost -$120 just for a wash.
2.Most DIY rv washes end up streaked and spotted by the less informed.

It had to do with water USE...I got the idea that when you park your RV at a campground, there are some water use restrictions...but I don't know anything about it because I've never had an RV or been to a campground :p