Question - Compounds/Pads order of use

[robirwin]

Hello,

I'm new to detailing, have a 08' Infinti FX35 (Black) and 07 Acura MDS (Black). I have some questions regarding compounds/pads with the Porter DA. The cars' paint is in OK condition. I have the following products and plan on using them in this order:

1 - Clay
2 - 1Z Einszett Paint Polish Lack-Politur
3 - Megs Professional Speed Glaze #80
4 - 1Z Einszett Polish Wax

QUESTON #1: Is this a correct order to use these products?
1z polish page says (http://www.autogeek.net/1z-einszett-paint-polish.html) - contains no harsh abrasives so there is no risk of micro-marring. And Megs Glaze #80 page says (http://www.autogeek.net/mg80.html) - Speed Glaze has a cut of 4 on Meguiar’s scale of 1 to 10. With a light cutting foam pad on a polisher or an applicator pad, Speed Glaze has enough cutting power to smooth out light swirls and oxidation, and improve the appearance of moderate blemishes. ------So I'm left thinking that maybe the Megs Glaze #80 goes on before 1z Polish? Also the wax cut chart page says (http://www.auto-geek.net/charts/wax-cut-chart-master.htm) that the 1z Polish is more aggressive than Megs Glaze #80. ------So I'm left thinking Megs Glaze #80 goes on after the 1z Polish. What do you think - which one goes on first...?

Question #2: Can you recommend pads for these three compounds? I've paired them up as follows:
1Z Einszett Paint Polish Lack-Politur (LC 5" White Pad)
Megs Professional Speed Glaze #80 (LC 5" Blue Pad)
1Z Einszett Polish Wax (LC 5" Red Pad)

Question #3: As far as scratches that aren't too deep but significant....I plan on buying some products off this site and after reading up it appears I should use the following after claying:
Megs 105 (LC 5" Orange Pad)
Megs 205 (LC 5" White Pad)

Hope that's not too much to take in....thanks for your help!

R

[BobbyG]

Hello,

I'm new to detailing, have a 08' Infinti FX35 (Black) and 07 Acura MDS (Black). I have some questions regarding compounds/pads with the Porter DA. The cars' paint is in OK condition. I have the following products and plan on using them in this order:

1 - Clay
2 - 1Z Einszett Paint Polish Lack-Politur
3 - Megs Professional Speed Glaze #80
4 - 1Z Einszett Polish Wax

QUESTON #1: Is this a correct order to use these products?
1z polish page says (http://www.autogeek.net/1z-einszett-paint-polish.html) - contains no harsh abrasives so there is no risk of micro-marring. And Megs Glaze #80 page says (http://www.autogeek.net/mg80.html) - Speed Glaze has a cut of 4 on Meguiar’s scale of 1 to 10. With a light cutting foam pad on a polisher or an applicator pad, Speed Glaze has enough cutting power to smooth out light swirls and oxidation, and improve the appearance of moderate blemishes. ------So I'm left thinking that maybe the Megs Glaze #80 goes on before 1z Polish? Also the wax cut chart page says (http://www.auto-geek.net/charts/wax-cut-chart-master.htm) that the 1z Polish is more aggressive than Megs Glaze #80. ------So I'm left thinking Megs Glaze #80 goes on after the 1z Polish. What do you think - which one goes on first...?

Hi Rob!

I don't have any experience with 1Z Einszett Paint Polish but when reading the manufactures writeup I'd have to say that these products are very similar in design and intent.

Both the 1Z Einszett Paint Polish and Meguiar's #80 are designed to remove oxidation and minor swirls leaving behind some form of protection. A glaze usually indicates some filling is in its formulation.

1Z Einszett Polish Wax is more or less a 1-step product that cleans the finish and removes oxidation similar to the other two but incorporates a Carnauba ingredient for gloss and protection.

If I were to use all three I'd use them in this order but they are so close I'm not sure you could tell the difference especially with the first two.


Question #2: Can you recommend pads for these three compounds? I've paired them up as follows:
1Z Einszett Paint Polish Lack-Politur (LC 5" White Pad)
Megs Professional Speed Glaze #80 (LC 5" Blue Pad)
1Z Einszett Polish Wax (LC 5" Red Pad)

Both the 1Z Einszett Paint Polish and Meguiar's #80 are light surface conditioning products so a Green, White and Gray foam pads should work well. An Orange pad is a bit more aggressive and is still considered a light cutting pad and will work with both.

Any sealant or wax lays down beautifully with a blue or red pad. While CCS pads aren't my first choice for my Porter Cable 7424, I like the red pad for applying sealants and waxes because of its sharp edge allowing me get right up to molding and trim.


Question #3: As far as scratches that aren't too deep but significant....I plan on buying some products off this site and after reading up it appears I should use the following after claying:
Megs 105 (LC 5" Orange Pad)
Megs 205 (LC 5" White Pad)

Hope that's not too much to take in....thanks for your help!

R

Both Meguiar's M105 and M205 are superb products. Meguiar's M105 can at times be a bit finicky and Meguiar's Ultimate Compound is an over the counter product and has a longer working time and is a little more user friendly...

[Mike Phillips]

Hello,

I'm new to detailing, have a 08' Infinti FX35 (Black) and 07 Acura MDS (Black).

I have some questions regarding compounds/pads with the Porter DA.




Some Infinitis have self-healing paint and most people have found this type of paint to be challenging to work on...

Here's a thread here with some good information and links in some of the posts you can click on for even more information.


Whatever you do and whatever you use... before buffing out the entire finish on either car, do yourself a favor and do a Test Spot.



How to do a Test Spot (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33761)

Before going over the entire car, see if you can make just one small section look good, that is apply the product you're planning on using over the entire car to just one small section about a foot squared or so. Work it in and then wipe it off, then apply the polish, work it in but not as much as the compound because now you're not trying to remove paint, just spread the product out, then immediately wipe it off, then apply the wax and let it fully dry and then wipe it off.

Now inspect our results. Make sure you can make one small section look GREAT before going over then entire car. If you can't make one small section look GREAT you won't be able to make the entire car look GREAT.

Make sense?

It should look like this,

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/test_spot1.jpg


And if you're having any problems, the post back here after the test section and we'll help you tweak your technique to insure you get it right.


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