embolism
02-11-2012, 10:31 PM
So I borrowed my uncle’s car to haul some big stuff home from Costco this weekend. Thought I’d wash it for him before returning it. Then I thought I’d try some of my new poliseal hybrid on it.
Items used
GG6
Two 5.5 inch LC orange flat pads
Mother’s showtime
Griots clay
Collinite 845
Optimum Poliseal
Poliseal hybrid
Various mf’s
First let me say that there isn’t a whole lot of 845 in the poliseal. After filling up a meg’s bottle with PS from the old poorly designed 32oz containers I had a bit left which I didn’t want to put in my last meg’s bottle (I got 3 and used one for poliseal, and one for all my WGDGPS samples haha). So I put about 8 oz of 845 in my last bottle and put the remaining poliseal into the 845 bottle. After cutting the PS container so I could scrape out every last bit of product, turns out I had about 8oz of poliseal left too. So I’d estimate there is probably only ¾ to 1oz of 845 in 8 oz of poliseal max. I easily could have added more to the mix but I worry about gumming up my pads. I also don’t want to affect whatever cut the PS has by changing either the foam consistency or the PS itself. Anyhow, listen to me talking like I know what I’m doing haha…
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1387/medium/ps_transfer.jpg
So I clayed the hood then set up the test. Very simple really. Left and middle panel got poliseal using the GG6 and a flat orange pad, cleaned on the fly once (after the left panel) and the right panel got the poliseal-845 hybrid using the other orange pad. Middle panel also gets a coat of pure 845 afterwards while the left panel has just the protection from poliseal.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1387/medium/the_players.JPG
From the pic above you’d think the paint was in good shape but it wasn’t. Here are some shots of what I was working with
Hood after claying
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1387/medium/clayed.JPG
Some pretty bad etching (right above the light reflection)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1387/medium/before_etching.JPG
Top of section 3 where I will eventually use the PS-hybrid
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1387/medium/section_3_before1.JPG
After I polisealed the left and middle panels, I put the tapeline back to separate them, and put down a coat of 845 on the middle panel (I used my patented plopping method). I gave the ps about 30 minutes before topping it.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/845_on_ps.JPG
Did the front half of the money panel with the poliseal hybrid. My dime sized amounts were more like quarter sized as I got used to using it out of the old 845 bottle.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1387/medium/panel_3_ps-845.JPG
Noted no problems in the wipeoff or decrease in cut from the other sections. For the top half of the panel thought I’d change things up by increasing the ratio of 845 in the poliseal.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1387/medium/ps-extra_845.JPG
Here you can see that I added an extra plop of 845 on each of my 3 nickel sized ps hybrid blobs. Again noted no change in wipeoff after working the section until the product was almost gone. My pad smelled more like 845 than PS though.
Here are some befores and afters. I tried to use chips and other RIDS to roughly show the same areas in each section. Without good lighting (sorry about that), it’s very easy to show afters that look way better than the befores but I tried not to do that. I also didn’t strip anything since that would defeat the purpose of an AIO and this post isn’t about dramatic 50/50’s anyhow. The clear on this SUV is hard and has never been polished in the last 5 years as far as I know. It needs some 105 bad and I really should do it this summer but this thing is a beast. I don’t know how you guys do it. I could barely reach the middle top of the hood (while standing on a stepstool) and apply any pressure.
That said, it really does look better than when I started. Some pretty bad etching came out (only have the before shot above, didn’t like the lighting on the after but trust me it came out) but some RIDS and deeper swirls are still left. I thought PS on hard clear was going to do nothing but was pleasantly surprised. After all the tape was removed, I honestly couldn’t see a difference in look between the 3 sections.
Left panel top before
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1387/medium/section_1_before.JPG
Left panel top after
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1387/medium/section_1_after.JPG
Right panel top before
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1387/medium/section_3_before2.JPG
Right panel top after (oops covered my reference mark)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1387/medium/section_3_after1.JPG
ok there it is
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1387/medium/section_3_after.JPG
I’ll have to post pics of durability at a later date though I can’t imagine that adding 845 to anything would reduce durability. My main concern was that it would affect the PS during use or wipeoff but it did not. You might want to change out your pads a bit more frequently if you try this however.
Weather is crappy this weekend. Maybe I’ll get some beading shots when I take the car back.
One more for the road (compare to the pic above after it was clayed)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1387/medium/after29.JPG
Hope you enjoyed the writeup.
Items used
GG6
Two 5.5 inch LC orange flat pads
Mother’s showtime
Griots clay
Collinite 845
Optimum Poliseal
Poliseal hybrid
Various mf’s
First let me say that there isn’t a whole lot of 845 in the poliseal. After filling up a meg’s bottle with PS from the old poorly designed 32oz containers I had a bit left which I didn’t want to put in my last meg’s bottle (I got 3 and used one for poliseal, and one for all my WGDGPS samples haha). So I put about 8 oz of 845 in my last bottle and put the remaining poliseal into the 845 bottle. After cutting the PS container so I could scrape out every last bit of product, turns out I had about 8oz of poliseal left too. So I’d estimate there is probably only ¾ to 1oz of 845 in 8 oz of poliseal max. I easily could have added more to the mix but I worry about gumming up my pads. I also don’t want to affect whatever cut the PS has by changing either the foam consistency or the PS itself. Anyhow, listen to me talking like I know what I’m doing haha…
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1387/medium/ps_transfer.jpg
So I clayed the hood then set up the test. Very simple really. Left and middle panel got poliseal using the GG6 and a flat orange pad, cleaned on the fly once (after the left panel) and the right panel got the poliseal-845 hybrid using the other orange pad. Middle panel also gets a coat of pure 845 afterwards while the left panel has just the protection from poliseal.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1387/medium/the_players.JPG
From the pic above you’d think the paint was in good shape but it wasn’t. Here are some shots of what I was working with
Hood after claying
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1387/medium/clayed.JPG
Some pretty bad etching (right above the light reflection)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1387/medium/before_etching.JPG
Top of section 3 where I will eventually use the PS-hybrid
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1387/medium/section_3_before1.JPG
After I polisealed the left and middle panels, I put the tapeline back to separate them, and put down a coat of 845 on the middle panel (I used my patented plopping method). I gave the ps about 30 minutes before topping it.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/845_on_ps.JPG
Did the front half of the money panel with the poliseal hybrid. My dime sized amounts were more like quarter sized as I got used to using it out of the old 845 bottle.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1387/medium/panel_3_ps-845.JPG
Noted no problems in the wipeoff or decrease in cut from the other sections. For the top half of the panel thought I’d change things up by increasing the ratio of 845 in the poliseal.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1387/medium/ps-extra_845.JPG
Here you can see that I added an extra plop of 845 on each of my 3 nickel sized ps hybrid blobs. Again noted no change in wipeoff after working the section until the product was almost gone. My pad smelled more like 845 than PS though.
Here are some befores and afters. I tried to use chips and other RIDS to roughly show the same areas in each section. Without good lighting (sorry about that), it’s very easy to show afters that look way better than the befores but I tried not to do that. I also didn’t strip anything since that would defeat the purpose of an AIO and this post isn’t about dramatic 50/50’s anyhow. The clear on this SUV is hard and has never been polished in the last 5 years as far as I know. It needs some 105 bad and I really should do it this summer but this thing is a beast. I don’t know how you guys do it. I could barely reach the middle top of the hood (while standing on a stepstool) and apply any pressure.
That said, it really does look better than when I started. Some pretty bad etching came out (only have the before shot above, didn’t like the lighting on the after but trust me it came out) but some RIDS and deeper swirls are still left. I thought PS on hard clear was going to do nothing but was pleasantly surprised. After all the tape was removed, I honestly couldn’t see a difference in look between the 3 sections.
Left panel top before
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1387/medium/section_1_before.JPG
Left panel top after
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1387/medium/section_1_after.JPG
Right panel top before
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1387/medium/section_3_before2.JPG
Right panel top after (oops covered my reference mark)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1387/medium/section_3_after1.JPG
ok there it is
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1387/medium/section_3_after.JPG
I’ll have to post pics of durability at a later date though I can’t imagine that adding 845 to anything would reduce durability. My main concern was that it would affect the PS during use or wipeoff but it did not. You might want to change out your pads a bit more frequently if you try this however.
Weather is crappy this weekend. Maybe I’ll get some beading shots when I take the car back.
One more for the road (compare to the pic above after it was clayed)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1387/medium/after29.JPG
Hope you enjoyed the writeup.