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WRAPT C5Z06
01-30-2012, 01:30 PM
Every daily driver I've worked on with swirled paint with an LC Orange and M105, it just doesn't come close to a swirl free finish. It tackles maybe 50% of the swirls. M105 is a potent compound, and while the orange pad is a "light cutting" pad, it's still classified as a cutting pad. I'm always unimpressed with it's cutting ability. I use it mainly with the Flex 3401. The cut of this pad is just not there, IME. :dunno: I always have to go with a B&S yellow, surbuf, or MF disc.

Sunshyne
01-30-2012, 01:35 PM
I experienced the same thing you did, I purchased some LT HT Cyans and will try those soon

Chris Thomas
01-30-2012, 01:37 PM
I think of it as more of a AIO pad.

alko
01-30-2012, 01:37 PM
make sure you change out the HT's often.

FASTFRED
01-30-2012, 01:37 PM
Same here,
I will use a yellow pad and light presure.

mamut
01-30-2012, 01:38 PM
I agree with you, never got a finish I was happy with using the orange pad and m105. On the other hand I was satisfied with the results the orange pad and Wolfgang total swirl remover gave me.

WRAPT C5Z06
01-30-2012, 01:39 PM
I experienced the same thing you did
I use B&S yellow cutting pads which cut much better!


I think of it as more of a AIO pad.
It very well could be, but it's still classified as a cutting pad, regardless of light or heavy. It cuts like a polishing pad, IMO.

Bigpat
01-30-2012, 01:40 PM
Ive gotten good results with orange ccs pads and sip... but its q white car and i take a long time on each panel

Setec Astronomy
01-30-2012, 01:50 PM
The whole point of this pad is good cutting ability while creating no hazing--which is what it does. If you want better cutting, use a yellow cutting pad or surbuf, as you do.

IMO this is like complaining that UC doesn't cut as well as M105...so why do they call it a compound?

Sunshyne
01-30-2012, 01:50 PM
I use B&S yellow cutting pads which cut much better!

Who?!

WRAPT C5Z06
01-30-2012, 01:55 PM
The whole point of this pad is good cutting ability while creating no hazing--which is what it does. If you want better cutting, use a yellow cutting pad or surbuf, as you do.

IMO this is like complaining that UC doesn't cut as well as M105...so why do they call it a compound?
I diasgree.

As far as the M105, UC comparison, they probably shouldn't market it as a compound.

Setec Astronomy
01-30-2012, 02:03 PM
Are we then also going to get into the semantics of "polishes"? Such as when should something be called a "compound", "polish", "glaze", "swirl remover, etc.?

Are we going to try and parse for every manufacturer and every combination of pad, chemical, paint, what the definition of "cutting" "light cutting" "polishing" "light polishing" "finishing" "great for AIO" "compounding" etc. is for pads?

Should we boycott Duragloss and Zaino because they call their LSP's "polishes" and confuse new forum members? People base whole careers on exploring the nuance of language, because it's not that black and white.

So if orange pads are now going to be "polishing" pads, what are we going to call green pads and white pads? Or is orange going to be "heavy polishing"? Or maybe "agressive polishing", or even "finessing cutting".

tw33k2514
01-30-2012, 02:09 PM
So glad I switched to MF pads almost exclusively. I havnt used an orange pad in months.

Setec Astronomy
01-30-2012, 02:10 PM
So glad I switched to MF pads almost exclusively. I havnt used an orange pad in months.

Problem solved! MF pads are great, aren't they? I do love orange pads, however, whatever they are called.

tw33k2514
01-30-2012, 02:13 PM
I call orange pads the ultimate hard clear one step pad.