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VISITOR
01-27-2012, 03:52 PM
Ford shares slump on disappointing results.

Ford Motor (F -3.57% (http://investing.money.msn.com/investments/stock-price?Symbol=f&ocid=qbeb)) is the only car company of the Big Three not to end 2011 on a high note. The only one of the three that didn't need a government bailout has stumbled as its rivals (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/27/us-ford-idUSTRE80Q00U20120127) have gained.

Net income at the Dearborn, Michigan-based company reported net income of $13.6 billion, or $3.40 per share, versus $190 million, or 5 cents per share the year before. Excluding one-time items, profit was $1.1 billion, or 20 cents per share, 5 cents below Wall Street consensus forecasts. Revenue rose to $34.6 billion.

Ford's strength in the U.S. was offset by weakness in other parts of the world. Ford's loss in Europe almost quadrupled to $190 million, while its operations in Asia Pacific and Africa swung to an $83 million loss as the floods in Thailand hurt its bottom line. The company's South American business reported a profit from continuing operations of $108 million, but that was a decline from $281 million a year earlier as competition intensified.

Meanwhile, General Motors (GM -1.09% (http://investing.money.msn.com/investments/stock-price?Symbol=gm&ocid=qbeb)) and Chrysler Group, which needed government help to avoid collapse, are on a roll. GM recently regained the crown as the world's largest automaker after reporting 2011 global sales of 9.026 million, a 7.6% increase from 2010 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/20/us-gm-idUSTRE80I2EY20120120). Chrysler's results were even better. It sold 1.37 million units in 2011, a gain of 26% from 2010 -- the largest gain of any full-line manufacturer. Chrysler reported its biggest monthly sales (http://media.chrysler.com/newsrelease.do?id=10622&mid=2) gain in December in four years.

As competition rises, Ford may have to offer additional incentives to bolster sales. CEO Alan Mullaly foresaw the financial crisis before most people. Let's hope his crystal ball has not become too dusty.

NickZ28
01-27-2012, 04:07 PM
I helped GM by purchasing my new 2012 45th Anniversary Edition Camaro SS Convertible in October!

StephenK
01-27-2012, 04:11 PM
those other 2 compnays saleswent up cause everyone thinks they will once again go under and all the car will be collector item and worth more then they paid for them. lmao

flyinion
01-27-2012, 04:12 PM
I helped GM by purchasing my new 2012 45th Anniversary Edition Camaro SS Convertible in October!

I guess I didn't help them for 2011, but I helped Chrysler out for the start of 2012 with a new Jeep Wrangler Unlimited :)

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those other 2 compnays saleswent up cause everyone thinks they will once again go under and all the car will be collector item and worth more then they paid for them. lmao

Or it could be their wakeup call worked and they're doing something right while Ford got lazy and fell behind.

tw33k2514
01-27-2012, 04:13 PM
It's all the Chrysler products in my driveway!

ScottB
01-27-2012, 09:19 PM
Cannot help but look at Lincoln/Mercury as likely the sore point for Ford. They likely need to do a GM and remove it like Pontiac, Olds, and Saturn. Too much overlap and not a break thru product. The Ford counterparts sell at a much greater pace.

And I am a diehard GM man ... so many new and great products recently released and still coming.

batb
01-27-2012, 09:28 PM
From Detroit News article - Doesn't sound that bad

Excluding the one-time tax gains, it was still Ford's best annual operating profit since it earned $11.5 billion in 1999, the company said.

Ford has now reported 10 consecutive profitable quarters. For the year, Ford earned $6.2 billion in operating profits in North America, up from $5.4 billion in 2010.

longdx
01-27-2012, 09:32 PM
I really think it is a testament that all the Big3 are finally focusing on producing quality cars. Admittedly, I would not have looked their way 10 years ago. However, I have been impressed with quality advances. Also, I am glad that the Big 3 are offering their small cars as similar or better than their competitors.(They have looked at their European divisions for quality products such as : the new Cruze/Focus/Fiesta/Sonic/ and upcoming Dart) Before, this segment was always treated by the big 3 as a necessary evil to get customers. They offered cars that lacked the refinement of their competitors but sold many due to rebates.

batb
01-27-2012, 09:35 PM
The North American International Auto Show in Detroit is renown for offering first looks at such exotic cars as Ferrari, Porsche, Lamborghini and Rolls Royce. Amid all that glitter, the Best in Show award given out each year by Autoweek magazine went this year to a far more humble entrant: the 2013 Ford Fusion.

"It's very rare for a mid-size sedan to win Best in Show," said Autoweek editor Wes Raynal. "I think it's the first of a lot of awards the Fusion is going to win this year."

Last year's winner, for example, was the Porsche 918 RSR, a concept car boasting 568 horsepower -- with 770 horsepower available for eight-second bursts.

The Fusion, however, with a maximum of 237 horsepower, is a car you'll actually be able to drive.

"The Ford Fusion bucks the mid-sized sedan trend of playing to the broadest common denominator," Raynal said. "Where many of the big players are aiming for an inoffensively bland look, the Fusion delivers bold styling that projects a more luxurious message than we expect for its broad, family-car mission," he said, calling the Fusion "chock-full of ... panache and punch."

Autoweek says the Best in Show award is based on "what car people will most remember from the show five years from now."

Chris's FX4
01-27-2012, 10:28 PM
Ford Motor Company 4th Quarter and Full-Year 2011 Financial Results (http://corporate.ford.com/our-company/investors/upcoming-investor-events/webcastevent-detail/webcast-20120127a?packedargs=releaseId%3D1244755137414)

Vegas Transplant
01-28-2012, 12:44 AM
Informative thread. Brand passionate to some degree. Facts are there. Variables concern me. Killerwheels,imo, correct about Linc/Merc., but what would be Ford's alternative.

Kristopher1129
01-28-2012, 01:15 AM
I didn't help any of those companies. But, what I did...was help myself by replacing the exhaust manifold in my 99 Civic, and she now runs like a top, ha.

I'm sure Honda would be psyched to hear this news! lol

Ted S.
01-28-2012, 02:56 AM
Ford has a better direction than the other two, in my opinion. If I can land a decent job, I may even save up for a Fusion. :props:

Meticulous-Detail
01-28-2012, 05:47 AM
Mercury has been killed off for a while now. Ford is starting to Focus on Lincoln again and we will see some nice products coming from Lincoln.

Just picked up a 12 Fusion and love it so far.

Ford Posts Biggest Profit Since 1998 but only Thanks to One-Time Gain, Gives $6,200 Bonus to Workers - Carscoop (http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/01/ford-posts-biggest-profit-since-1998.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Carscoop+%28CARSCOOP%29)

Investors brush off Ford's record fourth-quarter profit | The Courier-Journal | courier-journal.com (http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20120127/BUSINESS/301270056/1003/rsslink)

savannahnow.com | Savannah Morning News (http://ap.savannahnow.com/pstories/business/20120127/947468837.shtml)

tmoney82
01-28-2012, 06:18 AM
I didn't help any of them this year but I do have an 08 Sierra Denali! The 6.2 engine is the best engine made out of the big 3 companies imo!