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andrew b
12-21-2011, 05:49 PM
Does anyone bother to apply more than one coat/layer of the sealants like DGPS, Blackfire, etc?

I know folks still top with various waxes, but before I do that I'm wondering if I should do another layer of DGPS....

Thoughts? This is on a Monaco Blue BMW, using DGPS and topping with (probably) Pinnacle SigII...

Dr Oldz
12-21-2011, 05:53 PM
The only sealant I layer is UPGP. You only have to wait 45 min between coats. Other than that, it's only one layer for all other sealants.

rider9195
12-21-2011, 06:30 PM
I layer Blackfire Wet Diamond and Wolfgang Deep Gloss Sealant with great results. Just be sure to wait at least 8-12 hours.

umi000
12-21-2011, 06:35 PM
Two layers for me, just to ensure that I've not missed any spots - but then again, unlike I would guess most here, I don't layer waxes on top of sealants.

FUNX650
12-21-2011, 06:44 PM
This is on a Monaco Blue BMW, using DGPS and topping with (probably) Pinnacle SigII...

The Monaco Blue color is the base coat. You won't, hopefully, be applying any LSP's to the base coat paint film.

Polishing/leveling/'correcting', as it were, the clear-coat paint film is the true way to allow the Monaco Blue color to "shine" through the clear-coat...being at it's best reflective hue. In other words the clear-coat is deemed to be 'clearer'.

Once you've attained, to your satisfaction, the clear-coat 'correction', you're goal should be protecting the clear-coat with an LSP that will, upon curing, also be clear as possible.

The steps taken to achieve the above will allow the Monaco Blue to "shine" through now, what I consider, two (2) film coats....
-One (1) being the: As clear as you have made possible, to your satisfaction, from being 'corrected': Clear-coat paint-film
-Two (2) being the LSP applied upon the clear-coat that hopefully has cured to be clear also.

You don't want an LSP occluding the 'corrected' clear-coat right off the bat....When an LSP has begun its march towards its end-of-life cycle..It will begin to occlude the clear-coat paint film, causing the Monaco Blue to seem "not so shiny" as before...not as clear, because the clear-coat paint film is occluded/grayed-out.

If you desire to layer more LSP's atop the original LSP (#2 from above)...


I will only suggest to try the: "Cure-Clear" analogy. That's what I do.


:)

Bob

Chris's FX4
12-21-2011, 06:45 PM
I did two coats of WGDGPS on my truck for winter. Didn't top it with anything else.

I also did two coats of WGDGPS on my mom's car before winter, but topped it with Fuzion. This was mainly because I really wanted to try out Fuzion.

Come spring/summer I'll probably only do one coat of sealant and then top with a wax.

This is really just my personal preference.

Shawnw
12-21-2011, 07:20 PM
The Monaco Blue color is the base coat. You won't, hopefully, be applying any LSP's to the base coat paint film.

Polishing/leveling/'correcting', as it were, the clear-coat paint film is the true way to allow the Monaco Blue color to "shine" through the clear-coat...being at it's best reflective hue. In other words the clear-coat is deemed to be 'clearer'.

Once you've attained, to your satisfaction, the clear-coat 'correction', you're goal should be protecting the clear-coat with an LSP that will, upon curing, also be clear as possible.

The steps taken to achieve the above will allow the Monaco Blue to "shine" through now, what I consider, two (2) film coats....
-One (1) being the: As clear as you have made possible, to your satisfaction, from being 'corrected': Clear-coat paint-film
-Two (2) being the LSP applied upon the clear-coat that hopefully has cured to be clear also.

You don't want an LSP occluding the 'corrected' clear-coat right off the bat....When an LSP has begun its march towards its end-of-life cycle..It will begin to occlude the clear-coat paint film, causing the Monaco Blue to seem "not so shiny" as before...not as clear, because the clear-coat paint film is occluded/grayed-out.

If you desire to layer more LSP's atop the original LSP (#2 from above)...


I will only suggest to try the: "Cure-Clear" analogy. That's what I do.


:)

Bob
Wow, that's a heck of a response! Very detailed and informative.

BobbyG
12-21-2011, 07:26 PM
I've layered several different sealants this past summer with complete success. Some of the sealants I used were;


Prima Hydro-Seal
Klasse High Gloss Sealant
Wolfgang Deep Gloss Pint Sealant
Werkstat Acrylic Jett
Ultima Paint Guard Plus
Detailers Pro Poli-Coat Paint Sealant

Wait 12 hours between coats and you'll be fine....:props:

CEE DOG
12-21-2011, 07:42 PM
The only sealant I layer is UPGP. You only have to wait 45 min between coats. Other than that, it's only one layer for all other sealants.

Same for me 99% of the time.

For Sky I wait hours to re-coat but anybody else its 45 minutes now.

glen e
12-21-2011, 08:14 PM
3 coats of UPGP look fantastic on my honda...a candy look
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h307/gersly123/photo3.jpg

soloz2
12-22-2011, 01:00 AM
I've layered 2 coats of Megs ULW one right after the other then a 3rd a week later. No issues.

tw33k2514
12-22-2011, 01:31 AM
I stopped layering sealants. As long as you are meticulous with your application and don't miss spots, layering a sealant has shown me no durability gains.

FourEyes45
12-22-2011, 08:07 AM
I put 2 coats on just to be safe...One ofMenzerna (left the Men.at brother-in-laws) and a coat of Blackfire....looks great..

Dr Oldz
12-22-2011, 10:25 AM
3 coats of UPGP look fantastic on my honda...a candy look
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h307/gersly123/photo3.jpg

Looks great! :props:

embolism
12-22-2011, 11:10 AM
I've read that some people have done 40 layers of ksg

I got up to 3 then said the heck with it...