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mwtaco
10-29-2011, 06:03 PM
hi all,

the freeze is coming. gonna work in an unheated 3 car garage this season...

any advice on heating device to keep warm?

thanks!

zkeeper
10-29-2011, 06:14 PM
Well, I'll jump in here. Questions: where do you live? How cold will it get? How much do you want to spend? You have 3 car garage, and if you are in Toledo, you are going to need either a lot of kerosene or get something better. For years I used bullet industrial "tubo" heaters, and they worked, but the fumes get to you after a while. I had to really seal up the garage [at the time in the Chicago area] to keep heat in, as it was an detached garage. If it had been in the Carolinas?? been a LOT better. It might take 2-3 of those turbos to heat 3 car space...and cannot imagine electic heaters pulling that off--especially the radiant. BUT am not an heating engineer. I would imagine your electric bill would bring someone to the door checking on your usage.

This time, [for 2 car space] I just went for a professionally installed gas heater on the wall, all to code. And it was worth it all. Up to 85 in January in about 20 minutes from stone cold 20 degrees? It has to be turned down or off or I bake. Good luck with your choice:props:..but do it safe, and right. Don't jury rig it just to save pennies.

aerogt01
10-29-2011, 06:24 PM
This time, [for 2 car space] I just went for a professionally installed gas heater on the wall, all to code. And it was worth it all.

Definitely what I would recommend. You could also use a 220-volt wall-mounted or standing garage heater. The install would be easier, but it also wouldn't be as powerful and your electric bill would be pretty high depending on how often you work in there.

IndeedSS
10-29-2011, 06:54 PM
I just use a kerosene heater that I've had for years and have kept in case the power goes out during an ice storm.

silverfox
10-29-2011, 07:03 PM
You have an outdoor grill with one of those small propane tanks? If you do you can buy a small propane heat element that bolts right on the tank. Much safer than Kero.

Rav777
10-29-2011, 07:10 PM
You have an outdoor grill with one of those small propane tanks? If you do you can buy a small propane heat element that bolts right on the tank. Much safer than Kero.

I would go with this route as well. of course it never gets too cold here in San Diego but I still own a propane heater to keep people warm when I have a late night BBQ.

You should check out Northern Tool. I got a catalog awhile ago that is running a sale on heaters until Halloween. Maybe you can get some deals there.

ScubaCougr
10-29-2011, 07:41 PM
First, can you insulate your garage? Some fiberglass bats on the walls and even the ceiling will keep the garage warmer and make it a lot easier to heat, whatever the method.

mwtaco
10-29-2011, 07:57 PM
thanks for all the input so far guys. i'm gonna look into each of your suggestions.

we get midwest freeze your butt off weather here. im pretty sure my garage is insulated. it has drywall, so i have to figure out a way to see if there are insulation batts behind them (anyone know how?)

I like the idea of having something professionally installed, but concerned that will cost quite a bit of coin. i'll check out NT catalog and also the suggestion for a propane heater.

love this forum.

AeroCleanse
10-29-2011, 08:47 PM
My buddy has a heated garage, he has his hooked up to the natural gas used in the rest of his house. Bad thing, you need a fan of some kind to circulate the air, or as he discovered, the floor is still way too cold.

D.Acker
10-29-2011, 08:55 PM
I have one of these and it works quite well in my less that "tight" single car, doesn't take long before I'm turning it down or off completely.

ProTemp Portable Propane Forced Air Heater (40K) at Blain's Farm & Fleet (http://www.farmandfleet.com/products/494478-portable_propane_forced_air_heater.html?lref=%2fca talog%2ffind.aspx%3ft%3dpropane%2bheater#.TqyuWvQg _UA)

C. Charles Hahn
10-29-2011, 11:03 PM
Got a good electrical feed in your garage at all? 220V power? If so you can get an electric unit to do the job. For my single bay I've got one of these:

Amazon.com: Dimplex DGWH4031 4000-Watt Garage/Workshop Heater: Home & Garden (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00064NURU/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_3?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B002SG7EWG&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=088N2BZBM5MQ8PYFPAZF)

http://hahn-on-the.net/pictures/garage/lights2.JPG

It's on a 30A dedicated circuit coming out of my sub-panel.

Kristopher1129
10-29-2011, 11:33 PM
I also have a 3 bay shop. I use a wood stove every year. I just stacked a cord of wood earlier today. Costed me $250 for the cord. Last year I went through about a cord and a half.

It does take a lot more work with stacking wood, tending to the stove, and maintaining the pipes and what not...but still. To heat your shop for less than $500 through the winter, you can't beat that. I actually highly prefer the smell, and feel of wood stove heat versus gas. Not to mention, it's actually a great conversation piece. People love to talk about it...don't know why, ha.

I have a little diesel portable heater too. Comes in handy if I end up with a mobile job in the winter. If they don't have a heated garage...I can just bring that baby with me. It is also VERY handy for blasting the cold out of the shop first thing in the morning.

I actually got my stove installed through a barter for some details. :dblthumb2:

garcin
10-30-2011, 06:16 AM
Ok, go to Home depot and get yourself 8 dual halogen tripods (44.57 each) you get plenty of heat and lots of light, lol. Just kidding, but I do love this halogen. Good luck with your hunt for heat.

SameGuy
10-30-2011, 06:59 AM
My two-car is under the bedrooms of this split-level and gets some heat from the central furnace, but it's inefficient -- why would I want my furnace to heat such a huge space with two big doors that open a few times a day? I sealed up the registers a couple of winters ago and my house is noticeably more comfortable and my gas bill went down... and the temperature in the garage still rarely gets below 50.

But I do want to be comfortable when I'm in the garage so I got a 5000 W electric heater and mounted it on the ceiling. It's similar to the 4000 W unit above, but hard-wired to a mechanical thermostat (digital ones don't go to 5000 W) and from there to the panel which is also in the garage. The garage measures 22'x21'x7' and this thing gets it from 50° to 75° in about 15 minutes, and barely cycles to keep it that warm.

All in all it cost $200 for the heater, $15 for the 'stat, $35 for about 20' of 10/2 and I forget how much for a 30 Amp breaker. I installed it myself and my BIL did the final connection to the panel (he's an EE).

courtdale
10-30-2011, 07:12 AM
I have one of these and it works quite well in my less that "tight" single car, doesn't take long before I'm turning it down or off completely.

ProTemp Portable Propane Forced Air Heater (40K) at Blain's Farm & Fleet (http://www.farmandfleet.com/products/494478-portable_propane_forced_air_heater.html?lref=%2fca talog%2ffind.aspx%3ft%3dpropane%2bheater#.TqyuWvQg _UA)

I used one of these in PA (in the dead of winter) in an old run down garage that was far from what one would call properly insulated. It did a great job.