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dfa
09-20-2011, 09:50 AM
Does the Porter Cable 7336 6" HD Random Orbital Sander work the same as a PC 7424 XP ?
Thanks,
Steve

mark58
09-20-2011, 11:02 AM
Had one from Lowes and took it back. As far as I am concerned there was little to no rotation and it's noisy as heck. Now I have GV110V2 and it works great. Just my 2 cents.

Setec Astronomy
09-20-2011, 11:12 AM
The 7336 is the same as the 7424 (not the XP) except it comes with a sanding backing plate instead of the white polishing pad.

JRivers
09-20-2011, 11:37 AM
I use the PC 7335 which is the same as the 7336 but with a 5" backing plate...these are 1st generation units and are not very powerful but work just fine...I'll recommend you to install a 5" backing plate and use the 5.5" flat pads with it, so you can maximize the tool potential.

Mike Phillips
09-20-2011, 12:37 PM
Does the Porter Cable 7336 6" HD Random Orbital Sander work the same as a PC 7424 XP ?
Thanks,
Steve


The answer to your question is "yes", they work the same way, they just are not as good at maintaining pad rotation under pressure, which is what you want when trying to remove swirls.

I wrote an article just for all the millions of people that still own first generation Porter Cable Polishers, which includes the 7336 and the 7424 models as well as the hundreds of thousands of G100's Meguiar's has sold since the early 1990's.


The short how-to guide for using a DA Polisher
How to maximize the ability of the 1st Generation Porter Cable Dual Action Polishers (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/27166-how-maximize-ability-1st-gen-porter-cable-dual-action-polishers.html)



This thread also explain exactly where this tool came from and how it works...


The Free Floating Spindle Bearing Assembly - The Story Behind The Story... (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/23995-free-rotating-spindle-assembly-story-behind-story.html)


Just an excerpt from the above article...

Frustration with clearcoat paints
Now let me tie this back to why machine polishing has become so much more popular since clear coat paints were introduced.

As more and more cars being manufactured made their way into the market, as car owners, or in other words, do-it-yourselfers, would try the traditional methods of removing defects out of the paint, that is with traditional rubbing and polishing compounds, they would find that most of these products may remove defects but leave their own defects in the paint at the same time.

Not only that, but because generally speaking, modern clear coats are harder than single stage paints, the energy, time and skill required to actually remove defects out of clear coat paints increased dramatically, and in fact increased to the point that many people attempting to remove defects and restore a shine like their car had when they bought it brand new, left most people feeling frustrated and their cars no better off than when they started and often times worse.


Enter the Porter Cable DA Sander
That's right, I said sander! The Porter Cable Dual Action Sander is the tool that became the Tipping Point that was the driving force behind the average person switching from working by hand to working by machine.


The Porter Cable Dual Action Sander with Wood Dust Collecting Attachment for Sanding Wood
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/794/portercableSANDER.jpg



Sanding the old finish off using a Porter Cable Dual Action Sander
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/715/2SandingDesk2.jpg



The exact same tool only outfitted with a foam polishing pad for machine polishing automotive clear coat paints
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/794/PorterCable7424XP.jpg



:)

opie_7afe
09-20-2011, 12:45 PM
hold on now! dont forget to mention that the porter cable 7336 only has 3.7 amps vs 4.5amps for the 7424, so the 7336 has less amperage and has different speed settings then the 7424. now the 7346 is EQUAL to the 7424 only difference is the 7346 contains sanding backing plate and the porter cable polishing pad. but back on track the 7336 might not have the pad rotation you are looking for with the less powerful motor. so i would just get the 7424 or 7346.lowes carries the 7346SP now. (the SP just means sander polisher)..i would just purchase the 7424 from AG. sure you need to wait but the price works out to be cheaper from autogeek....

Setec Astronomy
09-20-2011, 12:48 PM
hold on now! dont forget to mention that the porter cable 7336 only has 3.7 amps vs 4.5amps for the 7424, so the 7336 has less amperage and has different speed settings then the 7424.

You're comparing the 7336 to the 7424XP. The 7336 and the 7424 are identical machines: Porter-Cable (http://www.portercable.com/Products/CategoryOverview.aspx?catpath=4272.4288.4296)

Pockets@PoorboysWorld
09-20-2011, 02:49 PM
You're comparing the 7336 to the 7424XP. The 7336 and the 7424 are identical machines: Porter-Cable (http://www.portercable.com/Products/CategoryOverview.aspx?catpath=4272.4288.4296)

Yes, other than the 7336 comes with a 6" counterweight or at least that was what it was years back when I bought mine from Lowes that was the advantage over the 7424 (5" counterweight)

Setec Astronomy
09-20-2011, 02:58 PM
Yes, other than the 7336 comes with a 6" counterweight or at least that was what it was years back when I bought mine from Lowes that was the advantage over the 7424 (5" counterweight)

Boy, it's been a long time but I think you're right! Thanks for pointing that out. I bought the bigger counterweight for mine separately.

opie_7afe
09-20-2011, 03:14 PM
also keep in mine the older 7336 only had 3.7a newer ones are indeed equal to the 7424 most ive found online of the 7336 are the older models with the 3.7a motor...and i did not realize the 7424 and xp had different amp ratings....im just so used to everyone talking about the XP i guess...

Setec Astronomy
09-20-2011, 03:27 PM
also keep in mine the older 7336 only had 3.7a newer ones are indeed equal to the 7424 most ive found online of the 7336 are the older models with the 3.7a motor...

I honestly don't know what you are talking about. They were the same machine with the exception of the plate that came with them and as Pockets pointed out the counterweight. Electrically they were identical.

I think you are perhaps getting snookered by Porter Cable rounding up the current for whatever reason to 4 amps while some resellers might have actually tested and found them to be a little lower. I would imagine the range of 3.7-4.0 amps to be within tolerance for the motor on a mass production basis, anyway. One value might be with new brushes, the other with them worn in, etc.

This used to be discussed endlessly back in the old days...they were the exact same machine...7224/7336/G100...just different counterweights/things in the box.

Disclaimer: This is the way I remember it, but it could be my senile dementia...

TS656577
09-20-2011, 05:00 PM
This goes along with Mr. Phillips' article. I don't go above 5.5" pads. anything above is just too big for the PC. If you want to maximize your potential out of the DA's, I'd suggest Meguiars DA Microfiber Correction System 5 Inch Starter Kit, paint correction kit, dual action polishing kit (http://www.autogeek.net/da-microfiber-starter-kit-5in.html) which was specifically designed for DA polishers. I just purchased the kit and haven't used it but I've read nothing but good reviews for the system.