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deep
09-10-2011, 01:39 PM
i have a 2011 pilot. thinking about buying the forum fav. kit. are there any step by step instructions from prep to finish available. I took it to the pro detail shop. It was waste of money. I decided to do this myself. if anyone can point me in the right direction i would appreciate it.

2old2change
09-10-2011, 01:55 PM
Welcome to the forum deep. Kits will save you some cash if it contains the products you were going to buy anyway. Some members prefer to purchase ala-carte so to say and target certain products they deem important to their needs. The search feature is your friend and offers a ton of info pertaining to your individual questions. The members here are more then willing to help when you address particular subjects or problems. Mike Phillips offers on line classes with a lot of general info on a wide variety of subjects. Other then these hints I would read,read and read some more. Again welcome to AG.

deep
09-10-2011, 03:50 PM
just one more question. my pilot has some plastic trim. do i apply the klasse aio and any kind of wax to the trim also.

S2K
09-10-2011, 05:09 PM
just one more question. my pilot has some plastic trim. do i apply the klasse aio and any kind of wax to the trim also.
Is the trim painted? or just unfinished black?

deep
09-10-2011, 06:14 PM
Is the trim painted? or just unfinished black?
am pretty sure its unfinished black.

S2K
09-10-2011, 06:24 PM
am pretty sure its unfinished black.

Then you don't want to use an AIO or wax on it. Wax can turn it white and is really hard to remove. You should use a product designed for trim such as:

Wolfgang Exterior Trim Sealant, rubber protectant, metal protectant, exterior trim protectant, exterior trim sealer (http://www.autogeek.net/wolfgang-exterior-trim-sealant.html)
Ultima Tire & Trim Guard Plus, tire & trim protectant, tire dressing, rubber protectant (http://www.autogeek.net/ultima-tire-trim-guard.html)

I know these are kind of pricey but if you read reviews on them they are the best and their durability pays for itself.

Here's something else cheaper but works pretty good:
Poorboy's Trim Restorer: Touching up the trim with Poorboy’s Trim Restorer provides the final polishing step in your quest for the perfect finish. (http://www.autogeek.net/pbtr16.html)

There are a lot of products out there for trim so just find something you like.

S2K
09-10-2011, 06:30 PM
Maybe Jenn can chime in with what she uses on the trim of her Pilot.

deep
09-10-2011, 06:35 PM
Then you don't want to use an AIO or wax on it. Wax can turn it white and is really hard to remove. You should use a product designed for trim such as:

Wolfgang Exterior Trim Sealant, rubber protectant, metal protectant, exterior trim protectant, exterior trim sealer (http://www.autogeek.net/wolfgang-exterior-trim-sealant.html)
Ultima Tire & Trim Guard Plus, tire & trim protectant, tire dressing, rubber protectant (http://www.autogeek.net/ultima-tire-trim-guard.html)

I know these are kind of pricey but if you read reviews on them they are the best and their durability pays for itself.

Here's something else cheaper but works pretty good:
Poorboy's Trim Restorer: Touching up the trim with Poorboy’s Trim Restorer provides the final polishing step in your quest for the perfect finish. (http://www.autogeek.net/pbtr16.html)

There are a lot of products out there for trim so just find something you like.
would these products work on the chrome plastic parts.

S2K
09-10-2011, 06:40 PM
would these products work on the chrome plastic parts.
Hmmm I'm not sure about that one. Hey Corey... need some help here.....

BobbyG
09-10-2011, 06:46 PM
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S2K
09-10-2011, 06:46 PM
Ok I think I found Corey's opinion:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/37805-newb-question-can-you-wax-seal-exterior-chrome-trim.html

This might help and read post #13.

deep
09-10-2011, 08:22 PM
thanks

Flash Gordon
09-10-2011, 08:27 PM
Welcome to the party newb