Megs MF Question

[IOMCAMARO]

Ok so I've searched and searched and searched and cannot find the answer to my question. After using the Meguiar's Microfiber system, how am I suppose to clean the pads for storage? Do I leave them and just make sure to prime the pad again next time? I cleaned them out with a bug sponge when I was done, but I don't know if that is good enough. Thanks for any input.

[Kevin Brown]

They are machine washable, and can easily handle the heat of a clothes dryer! :xyxthumbs:

I usually rinse them out first with a coiled plastic hose & sprayer attached to a faucet, in a garage wash basin.

[IOMCAMARO]

They are machine washable, and can easily handle the heat of a clothes dryer! :xyxthumbs:

I usually rinse them out first with a coiled plastic hose & sprayer attached to a faucet, in a garage wash basin.

Thanks! That's what I was hoping for. Today was my first time using them, but I couldn't get all of the swirls out of my car. I guess something was wrong with my technique because a ton of people rave about this stuff. My paint is in pretty rough shape for being a 2010. The dealers did a nasty job and my uncle made it worse. He used a rotary that he rented from Art's Rental and tried to use rubbing compound to buff it without polishing it... Let's just say I wasn't too happy. I think I'm just gonna have to keep hitting the spots with the compound. But this stuff smells amazing!

[Kevin Brown]

Fill us in on your machine, speed setting, primed or non-primed pad, and amount of pressure you applied (versus a typical foam pad).

[5.4 Shelby]

Machine wash and dry mine. No problems with that technique.

Sounds like your car has been mistreated. no pad/polisher combo is going to melt away the damage without some practice. The MF system is great, but, you will need to master the technique first.

[IOMCAMARO]

Fill us in on your machine, speed setting, primed or non-primed pad, and amount of pressure you applied (versus a typical foam pad).

Griot's Garage 6", Speed 4.5, primed pad, enough pressure to keep the pad down flat without it stopping rotation. I was using one of the safe bug scrub sponges in between passes to clean the pads.

[IOMCAMARO]

After reviewing their video I think I might have over primed the pad. lol. My pad was pink after my first pass. Their pad was still partially white.

[Kevin Brown]

Griot's Garage 6", Speed 4.5, primed pad, enough pressure to keep the pad down flat without it stopping rotation. I was using one of the safe bug scrub sponges in between passes to clean the pads.

That all sounds good. There are lots of ways to make things work. Since you said the scratches didn't all come out, and based upon what you've told us... you may be:

1. Working on hard paint (not as big an issue as most guys make it out to be).

2. Moving the machine too fast.

3. Using too high of a speed.

4. Doing everything right to this point.

Add this to your process:

After you've primed the pad and applied product, polish the area (18" x 36", or whatever size iswithin arms reach). Move the machine about an inch per second. If the backing plate is spinning really fast, drop the speed a little. Apply a decent amount of pressure, and maybe adjust pressure and speed so you see 2-4 turns per second of the backing plate.

Once it looks as though the polish is starting to dry, or the surface is relatively free of compound, mist the area you've just polished with a spritz of water, and re-polish. No need to add more product. You'll probably get about 30% more cut, and you should be able to polish 2-3 times longer without adding more product by spritzing one or two more times.

The water loosens the particles and redistributes them.
The water also keeps the microfiber strings from packing tightly against each other.

Watch the speed, adjust your pressure, and use a water spritz.
Let us know what you come up with.

Oh!- If you've got some time, start reading this: KBM - Pad Priming and Supplemental Wetting Agents (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=KBM+ - kevinbrownmethod)

Look at the info on page 30, titled: Water Spritzing... the Nitrous of Paint Polishing?

[Mike@DedicatedPerfection]

I would step the machine speed up to 5. I believe that is the recommended speed labled on the back of the bottle. I have upped mine to 5.5 for some serious work at times and the machine/pad has been able to tackle just about whatever is front of it within reason. If after a few passes it dosent cut it, apply enough pressure to stop the rotation, back off a hair untill the pads starts spinning again and that should do it.

[row011]

ive ordered some Megs MF pads Cutting & finishing. Looking forward to using them!

[Kevin Brown]

...I would step the machine speed up to 5. I believe that is the recommended speed labled on the back of the bottle....

Yes, these discs are incredibly versatile, and work wonders at high speeds, too.

In fact, for removing very heavy defects, a pad that is backed all the way to its edge and used with high rotational speeds have been able to remove sanding marks as deep as 800 and 1000 grit(I speak from experience on this, and NO I don't recommend trying it because paints are so different, and it's best to refine via sanding if at all possible).

I have perhaps have used these scrumptious beauties for 1000+ hours). Proper backing plates, added pressure, machine tilt, high rotational speeds, and water spritzes turn these things into "animals".

All that being said, it's much better in the long run to try what was recommended above first. Mainly because it's apparent that IOMCAMARO is not seeing anywhere near the cutting potential of the system just yet.

A drop of the speed setting (if backing plate rotation is apparently a bit high), ample or added pressure, and a water spritz (added what he has already explained) should show an obvious performance improvement.

[Kevin Brown]

Thought I would show which car we removed 800 grit marks on. While we should have or could have sanded the marks away, at the time, we were in the midst of a massive time crunch for a photo shoot, and.... the DA Microfiber Discs and M86 So1o Cut & Polish Cream were doing the job, so we went with it!

From another forum:

Soon, virtually everyone will be using Meguiar's DA Microfiber Discs, and enjoying their impressive results.
One thing is for sure... these little beauties were run through the ringer during development.
They were used on all sorts of vehicles, with all types of buffing liquids.

In terms of buffing pads, I didn't use much of anything else except prototype Microfiber Discs.

It was a tough gig keeping things hushed for sooo many years!

Doing write-ups was a challenge, too.
We couldn't show prototypes or even let on that something special was in the works.
This required "customization" of some posted pics.

Some examples:

From this write-up: "Alpine Electronics Imprint RLS Polishing Session" (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25530)
In this shot, RDVT4ME and the other pc were shown working on the now famous Alpine Electronics Imprint RLS:


http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/35-replacement-bob_paul-h.jpg

Actually, they weren't using foam pads at all!
http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/medium/Bob-n-Paul-polishing-duo-going-So1o.jpg

Two more shots we I couldn't post:

This was another shot from the write-up:
http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/medium/25-bob-deprat-h.jpg

The real shot:
http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/medium/Bob-going-So1o-at-Alpine.jpg

the other pc polishing a difficult area using the Microfiber Disc:

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/medium/Paul-edging-with-the-DA-Microfiber-Disc.jpg


From this write-up: "Meguiar's *New* M105 Ultra-Cut Compound Makes a SPLASH at Alpine Electronics" (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21186)

Close-up of the new Meguiar's G110 Professional Dual Action Polisher:
http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/medium/l-G110-shot.jpg

And the real shot:
http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/medium/DA-on-boat.jpg

Can't really see it but I was using a Microfiber Disc on the DA:
http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/alpine_boat_07_700x525_0287.JPG

[Mike@DedicatedPerfection]

I remember all these Pshopped pics. Lol.