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HotRod
06-26-2011, 10:13 PM
Well, I have concluded my original spar urethane longevity test with the two year update. http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-n-shine/19021-headlight-restoration-new-uv-sealant-idea.html And now I am ready to try the unpolished version, and see how long it lasts, but I am testing it head to head against Opti Coat 2.0 to see which lasts the longest. The test car is the same car in my original thread, a 1998 Mercury Grand Marquis that does not get too much washes or wax jobs, plus it sits outside 24/7. The passengers side light will be treated with the Minwax spar urethane(unpolished version) and the drivers side with the Opti coat 2.0.

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Minwax Spar Urethane/mineral spirits VS Opti-coat 2.0

Here is my step by step process for this test.
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Both lights were washed, and then masked off with painters tape to prevent scratching paint and chrome trim.

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Here is my sandpaper of choice, 1500, 2000 and 3000. Anything more aggressive and it would have been overkill, the old spar urethane treatment is very soft and thin, so it was very easy to remove.

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I use this meguiars sanding backing pad to aid in the wet sanding process.

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I soak all the sand paper in a bucket of water with grit guard. My chosen soap for lubricant is Meguiars hyper wash.

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I soak the light down by spraying water before wet sanding.

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And begin sanding, starting with 1500, 2000 and finish with 3000.

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Close up picture of sanding "slurry" remnants of 2 year old spar urethane.

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Finished sanding.

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Finished sanding.

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Now here is where the whole process changes, the opti coat side needs polished before application and the spar urethane does not and is ready for application now. Here is my polisher of choice for the opti coat side, my dewalt rotary with orange and black pad.

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The compound and polish I used for the opti coat side is Megs M105 and M205.

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And here is the drivers side light after polishing and ready for Opti coat 2.0. But first it needs a wipe down with IPA to remove all polishing oils, and insure a proper bond.

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Here is the finished side of the Opti coated headlight. I applied it with the provided sponge, and basically followed the instruction on the syringe.

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Here is my spar urethane supplies, I use a measuring spoon to make sure I get the 50/50 spar urethane/mineral spirits correctly mixed. I use a plastic wax free cup, and use a pop sicle stick to mix everything up.

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Here is what the mixture looks like.

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And here is my applicator, a blue scotts shop rag folded up.

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I wipe the mixture on side to side with the spar urethane. Remember, I did not polish these lights before applying this sealant as it is not necessary and hopefully provides a better "bite" for the sealant and maybe lasts longer as well.

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And here is the finished Spar urethane side.

Both lenses look good after the process, but I must say that in my opinion, the spar urethane side looks slightly better than the opti coat side in person. But the real test will be which will last longer. I will keep up on this, and try and take pictures every 3 months and post here, if anyone is still interested. Please keep giving me suggestions on this process, as I am still learning myself. And I encourage other members to do tests like this to get more comparison and get different climates factored in as well.

Dr Oldz
06-26-2011, 10:30 PM
Very cool! Again!

Wills.WindowsAndWheels
06-26-2011, 10:52 PM
Agreed, very cool...my money is on the opti-coat though lol...not that i'd offer that to every customer unless it was for more than my typical $50..since you have to compound/polish/IPA....and plus opti-coat is expensive...BUT...might be a nice upsell :)

LegacyGT
06-26-2011, 10:53 PM
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Joe@Superior Shine
06-27-2011, 12:41 AM
Way cool, thanks for sharing.

jbgrant
06-27-2011, 01:18 AM
I really want to try your unpolished sanding-to-urethane approach on a customer's car but am hesitant because it seems likely as soon as the finish sealant fails the light lens is going to get very hazy/cloudy. In other words, the future failure will be very acute and noticeable, instead of failing gradually as would be expected from the polished side. On the other hand, the finish might last twice as long due to the greater surface area to bond with and a heavier coat of LSP.

Very interesting test and I much anticipate your updates.

Thanks you.

Matt
06-27-2011, 02:39 AM
This is cool. I can't wait to see how this turns out.

BorisC
06-27-2011, 06:41 AM
I was looking to try Opti-Coat myself so I'm glad you did this. Besides the longevity of OC cost is the big factor, how many lights do you think can be done w/ one tube?

HotRod
06-27-2011, 06:51 AM
I was looking to try Opti-Coat myself so I'm glad you did this. Besides the longevity of OC cost is the big factor, how many lights do you think can be done w/ one tube?

I think a lot of lights can be done with this size of opti coat, not sure on how many, but you don't need much per light. So it should last along time.

sal329
06-27-2011, 08:01 AM
Looking forward to the long term thanks for doing thistest

CEE DOG
06-27-2011, 10:58 AM
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I was looking to try Opti-Coat myself so I'm glad you did this. Besides the longevity of OC cost is the big factor, how many lights do you think can be done w/ one tube?

The amount of lights that can be done with one tube is enormous. I'm not even going to venture a guess but you could get A LOT of lights out of one tube.

2old2change
06-27-2011, 11:34 AM
Can't wait to see how this plays out. Thanks for going to all the trouble for doing the test.I have had great results with you original method.

Part-timer
06-27-2011, 03:32 PM
I'd like to add my "Thanks" also to Hotrod. I've been using the spar method about a year now with great results.

WindyCity
06-27-2011, 10:14 PM
Thanks again hotrod!

You do a great job of updating your headlight tests!:dblthumb2:

richy
06-27-2011, 10:54 PM
Awesome idea. You took it to the next logical step. I, too am looking forward to the updates.