Incredibly bad car care advice.

[Sevenrd]

I was perusing the MX-5 car forum's car care section (I used to have an MX-5 and still visit the forum from time to time) and came across this. I was stunned at the incredibly bad advice of the reply. It's kind of scary that someone who obviously doesn't know much about detailing is giving advice to buy a rotary and some wool pads. I already replied with a post disagreeing with the recommendation of the first reply.

I just copied the text to here. But if you want to link to the message it's here: http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=214838

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Originally Posted by cobra grover
I am trying to figure out the cheapest place to buy the PC 7336 or 7224. My local Home Depot or Lowes does not stock them but can order them for about $150. I think that is too much.

I was looking on Ebay and saw them but it doesn't look like they normally come with the hook and latch pad, just the sanding pad. Is that true?

Do I have to go to one of the other online sources for the hook and latch pad?

I think I need...
-Hook and latch pad
-at least 2 or 3 different types of foam pads for the different levels of buffing
-Microfiber bonnet
-Wool bonnet (to put the microfiber over)
-Actual product such as Meguiars #83 & #80

Anything else?

Thanks,
Mitch

THE REPLY

Originally Posted by LOLA -- 92
Are you looking for professional full time use of the machine or just personal at home use? If it is at home use, then go to Harbor Frieght and get one with variablbe speed that starts at around 5oo - 8oo RPM. They have a dial, so you can run it at the speed you need. They cost about $50.
If you have a Harbor Freight Near you , then you can pick it up for $29.

Harbor Freight (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92623)

I purchased one and it works great. Just get a decent lambs wool pad and you are set. The machine comes with a 7" hook and loop already. I think I pad around $20 for a good wool pad at a auto paint store. http://forum.miata.net/vb/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

A 7" doesn't have to cost you $150 - $200 to work properly. Unless you do this for a living, why waste the money http://forum.miata.net/vb/images/smilies/action-smiley-034.gif

[ltoman]

I was perusing the MX-5 car forum's car care section (I used to have an MX-5 and still visit the forum from time to time) and came across this. I was stunned at the incredibly bad advice of the reply. It's kind of scary that someone who obviously doesn't know much about detailing is giving advice to buy a cheapo rotary and some wool pads. I already replied with a post disagreeing with the recommendation of the first reply.

I just copied the text to here. But if you want to link to the message it's here: http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=214838


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Originally Posted by cobra grover
I am trying to figure out the cheapest place to buy the PC 7336 or 7224. My local Home Depot or Lowes does not stock them but can order them for about $150. I think that is too much.

I was looking on Ebay and saw them but it doesn't look like they normally come with the hook and latch pad, just the sanding pad. Is that true?

Do I have to go to one of the other online sources for the hook and latch pad?

I think I need...
-Hook and latch pad
-at least 2 or 3 different types of foam pads for the different levels of buffing
-Microfiber bonnet
-Wool bonnet (to put the microfiber over)
-Actual product such as Meguiars #83 & #80

Anything else?

Thanks,
Mitch


THE REPLY


Originally Posted by LOLA -- 92
Are you looking for professional full time use of the machine or just personal at home use? If it is at home use, then go to Harbor Frieght and get one with variablbe speed that starts at around 5oo - 8oo RPM. They have a dial, so you can run it at the speed you need. They cost about $50.
If you have a Harbor Freight Near you , then you can pick it up for $29.

Harbor Freight (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92623)

I purchased one and it works great. Just get a decent lambs wool pad and you are set. The machine comes with a 7" hook and loop already. I think I pad around $20 for a good wool pad at a auto paint store. http://forum.miata.net/vb/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

A 7" doesn't have to cost you $150 - $200 to work properly. Unless you do this for a living, why waste the money http://forum.miata.net/vb/images/smilies/action-smiley-034.gif



Ok, i am ignorant. What kind of machine is she talkin about? Is it even like te pc?
I would be afraid a cheap one would hurt the car ....something might go flying off!!!!!!!!!!:confused: :confused:

Lauren:)

[Truls]

Scary, scary......

Even those who makes the polish machines dont know what the wool pad is for. They deliver those wool pads with the $20 usd, 110w machines in Norway (that is way to weak) as something that is ment for wax/polish removal (without the MF bonnet)

If i dont know the answer, i dont reply. And i also hope that no one else do that to me.

Dont BELIEVE,......KNOW

Sevenrd, you did the right thing by replying on that one.:applause:

[MikeyC]

That's a rotary buffer. In fact, that person happened to recommend the one Justin uses. However, I would never recommend to a newb to jump right into using a rotary with a wool pad.

[Gary Sword]

I think it just goes to show you that it's good to get multiple opinions and do your research before you jump into anything you don't know much about.

[abrcrombe]

I like dedicated detailing forums for this reason. Car forums are filled with a lot of uninformed people, and they often give terrible advice. Detailing forums generally have more knowledge. Either way, do what Gary says. Do your homework!!

[ltoman]

I like dedicated detailing forums for this reason. Car forums are filled with a lot of uninformed people, and they often give terrible advice. Detailing forums generally have more knowledge. Either way, do what Gary says. Do your homework!!


:iagree:

[justin_murphy]

That's a rotary buffer. In fact, that person happened to recommend the one Justin uses. However, I would never recommend to a newb to jump right into using a rotary with a wool pad.

Totally agree. This is a machine that you must learn first unlike the PC. You can destroy a car fast!

I'm in the process of reviewing as well as developing user guide for using this beast!

[useth4z]

Yup. I used that Harbor freight rotary (got it for $17) and swirled the CRAP out of our Honda's clearcoat (sorry, honey!). Another mistake is that I did it at night in the garage and couldn't really see the damage I was applying. I actually felt sick (and embarrased) driving it around in the sun it looked so bad...Good thing I didn't use it on the P-car first.

I learned alot from a concours forum on Rennlist, bought a Porter Cable and used Optimum polish and Poli-seal and got rid of all the swirls (phew!). The rotary is for professional hands only.

[Nuke33]

I cant wait to read your review//write up justin!