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WannabeG
05-28-2011, 07:40 AM
My car got royally botched by the 'detailer' when I picked it up a few months back. If you look at it in the sunlight, it is full of swirls and hologram buffer trails. You can actually see the way the buffer moved over the car. Looks like complete crap and it got me thinking, how the heck do those trails even happen? When I was first learning to detail, I had an old hood I practiced on, and even at full bore, moving quickly, I could never get anything like that to happen. How do the 'detailers' get that to happen? And should I expect them to come out fairly easily with M105 and an orange pad? I haven't hit the car yet because I'v been so busy doing other cars and just haven't gotten the time yet.
Matt S.
05-28-2011, 09:01 AM
They usually use the wrong pad (wool) to use a light polish or cleaner wax type product...doing this with any polisher will likely haze paint, and when you throw a rotary into the hands of an experienced "detailer", there's your result. :)
Flash Gordon
05-28-2011, 12:51 PM
My car got royally botched by the 'detailer' when I picked it up a few months back. If you look at it in the sunlight, it is full of swirls and hologram buffer trails. You can actually see the way the buffer moved over the car. Looks like complete crap and it got me thinking, how the heck do those trails even happen? When I was first learning to detail, I had an old hood I practiced on, and even at full bore, moving quickly, I could never get anything like that to happen. How do the 'detailers' get that to happen? And should I expect them to come out fairly easily with M105 and an orange pad? I haven't hit the car yet because I'v been so busy doing other cars and just haven't gotten the time yet.
Poor technique, dirty pads, rocks in bottle all of these will magnify swirls. If you use a rotary (wool) your going to get a certain amount of swirls, I don't care who you are
Yes, an orange pad is what I use to remove wool swirls
What machine are you using
james_death
05-28-2011, 03:21 PM
As stated probably rotary and not refined properly as sounds it needed a second stage of refining..:xyxthumbs:
WannabeG
05-28-2011, 05:46 PM
This is what I am dealing with on my car. Looks like complete crap, right? and I am using a 7424 PC.
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/255161_1956572466370_1004462556_32275363_3291385_n .jpg
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/252468_1956574746427_1004462556_32275371_641165_n. jpg
maximus20895
05-28-2011, 05:53 PM
Yep, those look like holograms to me! Good job taking a picture of them, I know it's hard to do!
Flash Gordon
05-28-2011, 06:00 PM
Those don't look near as bad as many I've seen
Work in small areas and apply pressure
richy
05-28-2011, 06:31 PM
That will be easy to fix. You're lucky he didn't burn through the paint...that's irreparable. You need probably 2 more stages till it's perfect.
james_death
06-01-2011, 05:58 PM
This is the danger of the weekend warrior, beware...
http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac347/mirrorfinishuk/Nissan%20Narvana/1.jpg
rwright
06-01-2011, 06:01 PM
Good grief! :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: Is that your truck?
maximus20895
06-01-2011, 07:04 PM
OMG. I don't think i've ever seen some as bad as that. Look forward to the after pictures.
jmheld
06-01-2011, 07:10 PM
How can anyone call themselves a "detailer" let something like that out of their shop? Did you pay for that? I am a newbie and I would certainly want that with my name on it that I did that!
kens56now
06-01-2011, 08:46 PM
What amount of work do you think it would take to get rid of the holograms on the truck? What types of products and buffing machine would work to get these out. :cheers:
maximus20895
06-01-2011, 08:52 PM
Any Dual Action polisher and maybe some 205 on an orange pad. Holograms are not deep, they are just millions of tiny scratches. It doesn't take much to take those out.
rwright
06-01-2011, 08:58 PM
What amount of work do you think it would take to get rid of the holograms on the truck? What types of products and buffing machine would work to get these out. :cheers:
I would start with Meguiar's M205 on a tangerine Hydro-Tech pad or a white polishing pad using a dual action polisher.
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