Best Waterless Carwash Product?

[gatoman39]

I am a big fan of the mantra, ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. I would much rather spray QD, 2 or 3 times a week, than break out the hose, two buckets, towels, etc, etc.
SO...
Which is the best way to maintain a clean car.?(not wash a soiled one)

1. Quick Detailer like Last Touch or Meg #135
2. Waterless like Detailer's Pro Series Waterless Auto Wash (http://www.autogeek.net/waterless-auto-wash.html) (application similar to QD).
3. Optimum No Rinse, and the two water bucket system.
4. something else
Feed back please

[sal329]

My vote would be ONR or similar

[Rsurfer]

Ultima Waterless Wash Plus. Mix 1/2 oz. in a 22 oz. spray bottle ( I like a pump spray bottle) and lightly mist a panel and wipe with a waffle weave or mf towel. Use a second towel for a final wipe. Leaves your paint clean and slick. Was an ONR fan for years, but now only use Ultima. For a hose wash try Ultima Paint Guard Wash.. slickest soap on the market.

[gatoman39]

Was an ONR fan for years, but now only use Ultima.
Besides dilution ratios, how do the two products differ?

[Rsurfer]

Besides dilution ratios, how do the two products differ?

ONR is a rinseless wash and Ultima is a waterless wash. I used just about every quick detailer on the market, but since using Ultima I don't use a QD anymore. I feel safer using Ultima as a QD as it has more lubricantcy (is that a word?),

[gatoman39]

ONR is a rinseless wash and Ultima is a waterless wash. I used just about every quick detailer on the market, but since using Ultima I don't use a QD anymore. I feel safer using Ultima as a QD as it has more lubricantcy (is that a word?),
Yes, I understand this, but when used in the 1/2 oz & 22 oz for the Ultima and 1oz to 16 oz for the ONR, both are essentially used as quick detailer waterless products.

[Rsurfer]

Yes, I understand this, but when used in the 1/2 oz & 22 oz for the Ultima and 1oz to 16 oz for the ONR, both are essentially used as quick detailer waterless products.

No, ONR is not a waterless wash thus has less cleaning agents (polymers). This is why Optimum came out with a waterless wash called Opti-Clean.

[ScottB]

Ultima, DP, and ONR .... all the best of the best.

[gatoman39]

No, ONR is not a waterless wash thus has less cleaning agents (polymers). This is why Optimum came out with a waterless wash called Opti-Clean.
well, it's marketed as being a rinseless car wash, clay lube, waterless wash and regular car wash enhancer.
Optimum No Rinse Wash & Shine 128 oz. New Formula! (http://www.autogeek.net/opnoriwash12.html)

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[Rsurfer]

Again, ONR is not a waterless wash. Read your post, no mention of a waterless wash. Like I said if your looking for a waterless wash by Optimum, then use Opti-Clean.

[gatoman39]

OK I think we're splitting hairs here. If using a quick detailer, or ONR in a QD manner, isn't that a waterless wash?, or am I missing something?

[Rsurfer]

OK I think we're splitting hairs here. If using a quick detailer, or ONR in a QD manner, isn't that a waterless wash?, or am I missing something?

A QD is not a waterless wash solution. ONR does not have enough lubrication to be a waterless wash. This is why Optimum came out with Opti-Clean which is made to be a waterless wash.

[Scott DeBrun]

Personally I like PBs, GG and Ultima waterless wash.

[TLMitchell]

Again, ONR is not a waterless wash. Read your post, no mention of a waterless wash. Like I said if your looking for a waterless wash by Optimum, then use Opti-Clean.

I keep a bottle of ONR in a spray bottle at a bit stronger than QD strength for that purpose. Yeah, it isn't necessarily designed as such but it works fine. I tried Opti Clean and while it does what it's supposed to well it isn't very economical. I used about 3/4 of the bottle on a full-size extended cab truck. ONR is a bit of a Swiss Army Knife product... after an ONR wash use a residue dampened wipeoff towel to wipe down the tires and under the hood. I find I use dressings a lot less.

TL

[gatoman39]

Ultima seems the most cost effective. Any issues with Ultima Waterless Wash Plus+ Concentrate getting clumpy, from other threads?