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embolism
05-05-2011, 10:50 AM
I just love to know the reasons behind why things behave the way they do. Here's another piece that may interest the geek in you:

A study by Autoglym (http://www.autoglym.com/enGB/default.asp), a leading U.K. car care expert, says acidity from bird droppings has no effect on a car’s paint job by itself. But bird poop can do some unsightly damage when combined with the heating effects of the sun.

As paint lacquer warms — in the direct sunshine for example — it softens and expands. At the same time, that heat dries and hardens any bird droppings on the surface.
Autoglym’s tests discovered that as the paint lacquer cools, overnight for example, it contracts, hardens and moulds around the texture of the bird dropping. This moulding appears as dulled or etched paintwork as the light's reflection is interrupted by the imperfect surface, unlike the undamaged paint surrounding it which gives a clearer reflection.
The researchers found wax and polish treatment that protect against chemical attack from acid rain and UV damage provide limited protection from the paint moulding to bird droppings, although these products will make them easier to remove.
The longer the deposit remains on the bodywork, and the higher the temperatures, the harder the dried deposit will be, and the greater the propensity for the paint lacquer to mould to it as it cools.

So, in other words, damage done by bird droppings can only be prevented by motorists removing the unsightly deposits as soon as possible.
Here are a few other tips to help you deal with this common summer annoyance:
• Motorists should use a moist cloth to gently lift bird droppings from the surface
• If the deposit is dry or doesn't lift easily, place a moist cloth over it for 10 minutes to soften the deposit
• Carefully wash your hands after cleaning, as bird droppings can harbour diseases

Mike has articles on this which have helped me greatly. The article above doesn't specifically mention the "scrunchy technique" but going one step beyond is why we're all here now isn't it?

crap, only lets me edit...

jbgrant
05-05-2011, 10:59 AM
Repost, you can delete this for 10 more minutes.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/35497-bird-poo-research-autoglym.html

Mike Phillips
05-05-2011, 12:13 PM
So, in other words, damage done by bird droppings can only be prevented by motorists removing the unsightly deposits as soon as possible.
Here are a few other tips to help you deal with this common summer annoyance:
• Motorists should use a moist cloth to gently lift bird droppings from the surface
• If the deposit is dry or doesn't lift easily, place a moist cloth over it for 10 minutes to soften the deposit
• Carefully wash your hands after cleaning, as bird droppings can harbour diseases


Mike has articles on this which have helped me greatly. The article above doesn't specifically mention the "scrunchy technique" but going one step beyond is why we're all here now isn't it?


Cool, their advice reads like what I wrote in How to safely remove a dried bird dropping article in my article list (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/23722-articles-mike-phillips.html).


Bird Droppings

New - How long does it take for a bird dropping to etch paint? (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/30535-how-long-does-take-bird-dropping-etch-paint.html)

How to safely remove a dried bird dropping (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/23231-how-safely-remove-dried-bird-dropping.html) <-- This one...

Two Types of Bird Dropping Etchings (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/24924-two-types-bird-dropping-etchings.html)



Excerpt...

How to remove a dried bird dropping without scratching your car's paint
Now add water to saturate your microfiber but don't add so much that you have water running off the hood. Allow 5-10 minutes to pass so the water can soak into the dried bird dropping in an effort to re-liquefy to make it soft so as to reduce the potential of instilling any swirls and scratches from dried bird dropping being rubbed against the paint.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/HowToSafelyLoosenaDriedBirdDropping5.jpg


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pfix
05-05-2011, 12:52 PM
The bird bombs are indeed nasty. Maybe Corey can include a bird bomb test on his Opti Coat/C Quartz test panel to see how much, if any, protection can be had with either coating.

embolism
05-05-2011, 01:36 PM
I was thinking this expansion and contraction of the clearcoat could also be the reason why some things like KSG are a bear to remove in warm, humid climates but really easy in cooler temps...

StoneRaizer
05-05-2011, 05:40 PM
The bird bombs are indeed nasty. Maybe Corey can include a bird bomb test on his Opti Coat/C Quartz test panel to see how much, if any, protection can be had with either coating.

Be nice if a company could come up with synthetic bird poo that has the same pH and viscosity for these purposes. How often can you honestly say that you want a bird to do its business on your car?

pfix
05-05-2011, 09:11 PM
Be nice if a company could come up with synthetic bird poo that has the same pH and viscosity for these purposes. How often can you honestly say that you want a bird to do its business on your car?

LoL, I am not wishing for a bird to visit any of Corey's cars. I was referring to his test hood (I think it's a hood) that he has been using for his extreme tests. Maybe he can set the hood out under a tree that the birds like to hang out in.