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Kristopher1129
04-17-2011, 11:31 AM
I'm going to buy one of these products and try it out on my own car. If I like it...I'm going to add it to my services for my customers.

So, the questions are...which one should I get? What do you guys normally charge to apply this for a customer? I was thinking anywhere from $100-$150 being that they last a LONG time.

rwright
04-17-2011, 11:41 AM
I'm going to buy one of these products and try it out on my own car. If I like it...I'm going to add it to my services for my customers.

So, the questions are...which one should I get? What do you guys normally charge to apply this for a customer? I was thinking anywhere from $100-$150 being that they last a LONG time.

How much are you charging for paint sealants? How long do you advertise them to last? How do you plan to market either CQuartz or Opti-Coat? Are you only charging for application since this is available to the general public?

silverfox
04-17-2011, 12:13 PM
I would get both because each plays to different tastes. Opticoat is not as smooth or glossy looking as Cquartz but it lasts longer so it would be more suitable fit that daily beater or rental car or something that will be neglected for the most part. In other words opticoat is more utilitarian.

Cquartz would be more practical for people that want a more smooth and shiny car look and who is more apt to want a glass like look and feel. I know I would be the type who wouldn't sacrifice that smooth glossy type look.

Most users probably wouldn't see the difference between the two. I would.

Kristopher1129
04-17-2011, 12:34 PM
How much are you charging for paint sealants? How long do you advertise them to last? How do you plan to market either CQuartz or Opti-Coat? Are you only charging for application since this is available to the general public?

I only charge an additional $39 for paint sealant. Sealant typically only lasts a year at the very most. And that very much depends on the weather, and what is done to the vehicle within that year.

But if opti-coat and CQuartz work as advertised...then I would imagine it would be much more.

Marketing, I have no idea yet. It really depends on which one I use, how it looks, ease of application, and if it really works as advertised. I mean CQuartz claims to last 2 years.

I don't understand your last question. I'm charging for the application because I run a detailing business, ha. Obviously people may very well want this as an add on service to their package. Most detailing products are available to the public...that doesn't change the fact that they pay me.

Matt S.
04-17-2011, 12:35 PM
Although they're both coatings, they're completely different products. I recommend getting both and experimenting to see what suits you better.

They both have their advantages and disadvantages, but I wouldn't really say CQuartz looks better than Opti Coat 2.0. I was very impressed by the look that each product gave. Keep in mind that each product should be applied over a defect-free finish, and neither product is oily like a typical wax is. That being said, I did notice increased depth/clarity with both products.

Kristopher1129
04-17-2011, 12:39 PM
I would get both because each plays to different tastes. Opticoat is not as smooth or glossy looking as Cquartz but it lasts longer so it would be more suitable fit that daily beater or rental car or something that will be neglected for the most part. In other words opticoat is more utilitarian.

Cquartz would be more practical for people that want a more smooth and shiny car look and who is more apt to want a glass like look and feel. I know I would be the type who wouldn't sacrifice that smooth glossy type look.

Most users probably wouldn't see the difference between the two. I would.

I actually was planning on that. I was more or less looking to see if people had a preference. I definitely would like to try both before offering it to my customers.

I actually had that feeling when I read through the descriptions. I've also seen some write ups on these products. I was under the same impression that Opti-coat would be good for daily drivers, and CQuartz maybe for more high end vehicles.

How many vehicles does 30ml actually do? Doesn't seem like very much. Which is another big reason I feel like I have to charge quite a bit for this service.

Matt S.
04-17-2011, 12:43 PM
I actually was planning on that. I was more or less looking to see if people had a preference. I definitely would like to try both before offering it to my customers.

I actually had that feeling when I read through the descriptions. I've also seen some write ups on these products. I was under the same impression that Opti-coat would be good for daily drivers, and CQuartz maybe for more high end vehicles.

How many vehicles does 30ml actually do? Doesn't seem like very much. Which is another big reason I feel like I have to charge quite a bit for this service.

I used around 10ml on my entire Tacoma Double Cab Long Bed. That's doing every painted area, all windows, wheels, trim, etc.

For Opti Coat, I used around 3cc (1 syringe comes with 20cc), covering an entire 2011 Camry SE.

Kristopher1129
04-17-2011, 12:48 PM
I would get both because each plays to different tastes. Opticoat is not as smooth or glossy looking as Cquartz but it lasts longer so it would be more suitable fit that daily beater or rental car or something that will be neglected for the most part. In other words opticoat is more utilitarian.

Cquartz would be more practical for people that want a more smooth and shiny car look and who is more apt to want a glass like look and feel. I know I would be the type who wouldn't sacrifice that smooth glossy type look.

Most users probably wouldn't see the difference between the two. I would.


Although they're both coatings, they're completely different products. I recommend getting both and experimenting to see what suits you better.

They both have their advantages and disadvantages, but I wouldn't really say CQuartz looks better than Opti Coat 2.0. I was very impressed by the look that each product gave. Keep in mind that each product should be applied over a defect-free finish, and neither product is oily like a typical wax is. That being said, I did notice increased depth/clarity with both products.

Yes, that much is understood. I was planning on having either CQuartz, or Opti-Coat included into my Platinum Package (which includes a full paint correction). Or was going to offer it to customers that pay for a full paint correction as an add on service.

My main intention was to add it to my Platinum Package to aid as a selling point. If customers know their paint will be protected for up to two years...that really helps draw people in.

Kristopher1129
04-17-2011, 12:49 PM
I used around 10ml on my entire Tacoma Double Cab Long Bed. That's doing every painted area, all windows, wheels, trim, etc.

For Opti Coat, I used around 3cc (1 syringe comes with 20cc), covering an entire 2011 Camry SE.

Oh alright. So this stuff must spread quite a bit then. That's good to know! I figured that would be the case since they sell it in such small amounts. Thanks for the info, I appreciate it!

Deep Gloss Auto Salon
04-17-2011, 09:26 PM
I was under the same impression that Opti-coat would be good for daily drivers, and CQuartz maybe for more high end vehicles.


What gave you that impression?




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Kristopher1129
04-17-2011, 11:22 PM
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I'm really not sure. Maybe it's the names of the products, or the descriptions. When I read both descriptions...I just felt like CQuartz leaves a harder more solid look and shine. For some reason I think Opti-coat may be a little softer.

Who knows, it's just how I felt about it. I haven't used either product yet...so it's not like a I have a solid answer for that.

Deep Gloss Auto Salon
04-18-2011, 06:14 AM
I'm really not sure. Maybe it's the names of the products, or the descriptions. When I read both descriptions...I just felt like CQuartz leaves a harder more solid look and shine. For some reason I think Opti-coat may be a little softer.

Who knows, it's just how I felt about it. I haven't used either product yet...so it's not like a I have a solid answer for that.

I have not use CQ but I have used OC on my personal as well as two customers’ exotics.



If I may suggest, please do not prejudice yourself before using OC as I have been very pleased with it thus far!

PAR Detailing
04-18-2011, 07:59 AM
Kris, If you go with Opti-Coat consider picking up the Pro version as it wont take as long to flash off making the process faster for you.

Tom Weed
04-18-2011, 09:02 AM
Hi Kristopher,
I was thinking the same thing, which to get... I got both, and have been trying to find the time to get them applied. My gf has a black Sonata and I have a black Grand Prix, I was going to apply CQuartz on hers and Opti-coat on mine and go from there...

I started the prep on her car yesterday by washing and claying it, then polishing all the little scratches out with the Flex 3401 and a maroon LC Hydro pad and Menzerna 106, and a mineral spirits wipe down to remove the oils. I was then planning on giving it a coat of Iron X and washing it with Opti-clean to get the paint perfectly clean... I got about halfway done polishing yesterday and got talked into going mushroom hunting and pretty much shot the rest of the day! Going to see if I can get the polish part done tonight after work.

I will post pictures and my observation's when I am done with both...

Wendell Jarvis
04-18-2011, 09:10 AM
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:iagree:

I had the same thought also??????..........It really does not matter if its a Garage Queen or a Daily Driver