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rjgervacio
04-13-2011, 07:51 PM
:Picture:Hello AutoGeeks,:Picture:

I'm RJ and I'm totally new to the world of AutoDetailing. I didn't realize how visual maintenance of a car can be so intricate until I found this website. Needless to say, I'm quite excited to work on my car and start learning from there.

I have a '10 Subaru Forester - Blue. Overall, its appearance is still in pretty good condition except for some scratches & paint chips on the left side of the fender caused by City Plow Trucks during this past winter.

Right now, I'm compiling a list of things I need to buy to get me started:


Washing Shampoo - Optimum No Rinse Wash or DP Rinseless Wash & Gloss or Meguiar's Gold Class Shampoo
Clay - Pinnacle Ultra Poly Clay
Compound - Pinnacle XMT #3 - #4 (I'm gonna try to use a rubbing compound first to fix the scratch I've mentioned.)
Sealant/Polish - Klasse All in One Polish (any other suggestions?)
Glaze - maybe later on (any suggestions?)
Wax - Collinite #845 or Meguiar's Gold Class Carnuba or Mothers California Gold Carnuba Wax or Poorboy Liquid's Natty Blue Wax
Quick Detailer - I'll make use of the Optimum No Rinse Wash
Wheel Cleaner - Mothers All Wheel and Tire Cleaner (any other suggestions?)
Tire Dressing - DP Gloss Tire Gel
Buffer - still looking but probably the Black & Decker Random Orbital Polisher (can't afford the ones that cost hundreds of $$$)
Towel - Mango Freeze Microfiber
Applicator Pads / Brush - local store probably

I'm trying to keep my list as economical as possible yet still achieving the best possible quality. I could use all the suggestions and help you guys can offer.Feed back please I can't wait to get my hands dirty once it gets a lil warmer.:buffing:

Thanks!

kb2ehj
04-13-2011, 08:20 PM
RJ welcome to AG.

As for your your list. Looks like you got a start to some good stuff.

I'd probably try to save up some cash and get yourself like a PCxp 7424 or a GC DA along with a collection of pads. Doing a paint correction by hand probably will be near impossible.

I've sent you a PM.

Ech0
04-13-2011, 08:30 PM
I'm green as grass when it comes to this stuff, but, I was not impressed by the Mango Breeze Microfiber....The description of the towels says "thin" and they mean it.

tuscarora dave
04-13-2011, 08:47 PM
Welcome to the site. If I were you (knowing what I know now that is) I'd drop that entire list with exception to the Optimum Rinseless Wash and Shine and spend the money on a Griot's Garage 6" dual action polisher
Griot's Garage 6 inch Random Orbital Polisher, Dual action buffer, DA polisher (http://www.autogeek.net/griots-random-orbital-polisher.html) and a 3 pack of pads. Lake Country Hydro-Tech 6.5 Inch Foam Pads, water-based polish pads, foam buffing pads, hydro tech pads (http://www.autogeek.net/hydro-tech-pads-3pack.html)
This way the cart is not in front of the horse so to speak and you can pack up a bottle of Ultimate Compound, Ultimate Polish, a cheap wax and some cheap microfiber. If you are on such a tight budget you should cheap on the products (Walmart) and allow the process (machine) to do most of the work for you.

kb2ehj
04-13-2011, 09:03 PM
Ok attempting to send a PM - server looks like it might be having problems

Still a no go. I've cut and pasted my response into a text editor so when the server comes back up I'll send it then.

rjgervacio
04-13-2011, 09:07 PM
RJ welcome to AG.

As for your your list. Looks like you got a start to some good stuff.

I'd probably try to save up some cash and get yourself like a PCxp 7424 or a GC DA along with a collection of pads. Doing a paint correction by hand probably will be near impossible.

I've sent you a PM.

Thanks for responses!

Seems like everyone is suggesting the PC 7424XP to be added on my list. I guess it's that good. What's so special about it that makes it better than the Black & Decker Random Orbital Polisher (http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-WP900-6-Inch-Polisher/dp/B000077CPT) I had in mind?

Also, can I use the Klasse All In One Polish on my wheels?

kb2ehj
04-13-2011, 09:10 PM
That looks like what is commonly referred to as a wax spreader.

Probably not going to get much correction work done with it.

maximus20895
04-13-2011, 09:18 PM
The Random Orbital Polisher is a different machine than a Dual Action Polisher. One is meant to spread wax and one is meant to correct paint defects. The Dual Action Polisher has a higher RPM and the pad spins two different ways.

rjgervacio
04-13-2011, 11:32 PM
That looks like what is commonly referred to as a wax spreader.

Probably not going to get much correction work done with it.

Hmmm sounds interesting. Ok, I'll see if I can manage to get it.

HeavyMetal
04-14-2011, 08:59 AM
Welcome to the site. If I were you (knowing what I know now that is) I'd drop that entire list with exception to the Optimum Rinseless Wash and Shine and spend the money on a Griot's Garage 6" dual action polisher
Griot's Garage 6 inch Random Orbital Polisher, Dual action buffer, DA polisher (http://www.autogeek.net/griots-random-orbital-polisher.html) and a 3 pack of pads. Lake Country Hydro-Tech 6.5 Inch Foam Pads, water-based polish pads, foam buffing pads, hydro tech pads (http://www.autogeek.net/hydro-tech-pads-3pack.html)
This way the cart is not in front of the horse so to speak and you can pack up a bottle of Ultimate Compound, Ultimate Polish, a cheap wax and some cheap microfiber. If you are on such a tight budget you should cheap on the products (Walmart) and allow the process (machine) to do most of the work for you.

I'll ditto what Dave sez (hi Dave, how you been, gimme a call and stop over). Only diff I'd do is 6 pak of LC 5.5 flat pads. If you're just doing your own car they'll do just fine and they're a bit cheaper. You can get very good MF towels at Wally World or Autozone, along with a good MF wash mitt and wheel brushes. I use Meg's Gold Class Car Wash and it's fine - 9.99 at Autozone - but any of the Meg's line is probably better than what you're using now. Add in a decent wax like Meg's Gold Class and you're set for a start.

You do need a good DA and pads to properly polish your car, so TD is right, spend your money on the horse first.

rjgervacio
04-14-2011, 09:40 AM
I'll ditto what Dave sez (hi Dave, how you been, gimme a call and stop over). Only diff I'd do is 6 pak of LC 5.5 flat pads. If you're just doing your own car they'll do just fine and they're a bit cheaper. You can get very good MF towels at Wally World or Autozone, along with a good MF wash mitt and wheel brushes. I use Meg's Gold Class Car Wash and it's fine - 9.99 at Autozone - but any of the Meg's line is probably better than what you're using now. Add in a decent wax like Meg's Gold Class and you're set for a start.

You do need a good DA and pads to properly polish your car, so TD is right, spend your money on the horse first.

If use Meg's product instead of the ones I listed but while using a good DA like the PC 7424XP, will I still see good results?

kb2ehj
04-14-2011, 09:48 AM
You should get excellent results with the Meg's products.

See the various videos and articles Mike Philips has written here on doing test spots as you might have to play with the pad/product combination's a bit.

rjgervacio
04-14-2011, 09:59 AM
You should get excellent results with the Meg's products.

See the various videos and articles Mike Philips has written here on doing test spots as you might have to play with the pad/product combination's a bit.

Good to know. This might be too much to ask but if possible, can you go through my shopping list and see what I could replace with a Meg's product.:thankyousign:

HeavyMetal
04-14-2011, 10:18 AM
Good to know. This might be too much to ask but if possible, can you go through my shopping list and see what I could replace with a Meg's product.:thankyousign:

You can use the Meg's Ultimate Compound and Ultimate Polish TD suggested or get the Meg's polish kit: Meguiars Ultra Polish Kit with 5.5 Inch Pads, Meguiars Mirror Glaze Polishes, Meguiar's Polish Kit, 5.5 inch buffing pad kit (http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-ultra-polish-kit.html) , or if I was going Meg's I'd get the new MF Kit: Meguiars DA Microfiber Correction System 5 Inch Starter Kit, paint correction kit, dual action polishing kit (http://www.autogeek.net/da-microfiber-starter-kit-5in.html) since that comes with the pads, swirl remover polish and last step polish/wax all in one kit. Add a DA and a bug sponge to clean the MF pads and you're done. There's been a lot of very good comments about the new Megs MF system and it's about as inexpensive as you'll find in a highly rated product line.

Read Mike's articles and read up on the Megs MF system including how to clean the pads with a brush or bug sponge.

rjgervacio
04-14-2011, 08:54 PM
You should get excellent results with the Meg's products.

See the various videos and articles Mike Philips has written here on doing test spots as you might have to play with the pad/product combination's a bit.


How about this kit, Meguiars Brilliant Solutions Paint Restoration Kit (http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-paint-restoration-kit.html)? Are the items included in this kit worth using along with the PC 7424XP (that is if I decide to get it)? As a starter, I'm considering of getting this instead of the ones I've listed.

I need a rubbing compound to remove the scratches (they're almost similar to a key scratch. I'll try to post a picture of the damage later on). Is the Meguiars Ultimate Compound (http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-ultimate-compound.html) (included in the kit), effective enough to remove deep scratches?