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Kaban
03-31-2011, 09:13 PM
Is there any way to apply a paste wax like Collinite 476 with a buffer? I have a 3401XC with some black finishing pads and was wondering if maybe I can apply some of the collinite 476 paste wax onto the pad and use the buffer to apply it?

Flash Gordon
03-31-2011, 09:19 PM
Is there any way to apply a paste wax like Collinite 476 with a buffer? I have a 3401XC with some black finishing pads and was wondering if maybe I can apply some of the collinite 476 paste wax onto the pad and use the buffer to apply it?

No

embolism
03-31-2011, 09:31 PM
don't mind Flash (though I did laugh out loud when I read it)

just use a knife to spread it onto the pad and then give 'er

Kaban
03-31-2011, 09:37 PM
Thanks embo!

C. Charles Hahn
03-31-2011, 09:46 PM
As a matter of fact, yes. Here's an excerpt from the following thread:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/25304-secret-removing-oxidation-restoring-show-car-finish-antique-single-stage-paints.html


How to apply a paste wax by machine
You'll need a DA Polisher like this Porter Cable 7424XP (http://www.autogeek.net/dual-action-polishers.html) with a 5.5" Flat Gray Finishing Pad (http://www.autogeek.net/lake-country-beveled-pad-kit.html), Dodo Juice Banana Armour Hard Wax (http://www.autogeek.net/banana-hard-car-wax.html)and some Microfiber Gloves (http://www.autogeek.net/micglovinbul.html). For this step you could substitute any quality finishing wax or paint sealant. Here's a list of finishing waxes, sealants and hybrids.

How To Choose The Right Wax or Paint Sealant for your Detailing Project (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/23263-how-choose-right-wax-paint-sealant-your-detailing-project.html)


For this procedure I'm going to place a microfiber glove over one hand in order to hold the wax without contaminating it or without it slipping out of my hand.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/859/Behemoth2010.jpg



To get the wax out of the plastic jar you just have to carefully knock it out using inertia by holding the jar upside down and then knocking it against your other hand with a Microfiber Glove on it.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/859/Behemoth2011.jpg


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Then hold the polisher in one hand and the wax in your other hand with the glove on it and blip the on/off button of the polisher while holding the wax against the face of the pad and you can quickly transfer wax to the pad.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/859/NonAbrasiveMethod040.jpg


The Microfiber Gloves keep the wax clean until you place it back into the jar and enable you to grip the wax so it doesn't slip out of your hand and onto the floor...

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/859/NonAbrasiveMethod041.jpg



Ready to start laying down some Banana Armour...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/859/Behemoth2014.jpg



It takes a little muscle to do this because in one hand you're holding the wax and the other hand is holding the polisher for the duration of time it takes to run the polisher over every square inch of the car. If you had a helper they could hold the wax with microfiber gloves on and you could use both hands to hold the polisher, then as you needed more wax your helper could apply the wax while you hold the polisher, otherwise hit the gym.


If you look carefully you can see I spelled out Dodo on the hood in my wax pattern...

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/859/Behemoth2015.jpg


In the forum world you'll often read people talking about getting the "Sun Shot" , that's where they pull their project car out into the sun to show there are no swirls in the paint.

The below shot is kind of like the "Sun Shot", but I call it the "Fun Shot" because I was just having some fun with the Dodo name in wax.

I used a rubberband to hold a Cobra Indigo Microfiber Bonnet (http://www.autogeek.net/cobra-indigo-microfiber-bonnets-6.html) over a 3" Griot's Garage Polishing Pad (http://www.autogeek.net/griots-orange-pads-3.html) on a DA Polisher and took the wax off only where the word DODO was spelled out and then pulled the car into the sun for a "Fun Shot".

The Sun Shot Fun Shot
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/859/Behemoth2016.jpg



Yep, this is how you get the high overhead shot, you have to get up in the air a little ways...

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/859/Behemoth2017.jpg



Removing the wax
After capturing the fun shot I pulled the car back into our studio and let the hood cool down and then removed the wax by hand using Cobra Indigo Microfiber Towels (http://www.autogeek.net/coinmipocl8p.html). Always fold your towels 4 ways to give you 8 sides to wipe with and to provide cushion to spread out the pressure of you hand.

Below is a link to a video and at the end of the video I show how to remove Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0 by hand using the Cobra Indigo Microfiber Towels. In this video I share a technique I call "Breaking the Wax Open" and then "Creeping Out". Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0 is a finishing synthetic paint sealant but the technique shared in the video can be used with any finishing wax, sealant or hybrid.

How to Apply a Synthetic Paint Sealant by Hand using the Straightline Technique (http://www.palmbeachmotoring.net/ascg-videos/paint-sealant.html)


After removing the majority of the wax it's time to give the paint a final wipe. Here's an article on the technique for giving paint a final wipe.

The Final Wipe – Tips for creating a streak-free, show car finish (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/19956-final-wipe.html)

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Kaban
03-31-2011, 09:56 PM
That is awesome! Thanks so much to Mike for doing that step by step tutorial and to you my friend Shiny Lil for pulling up that great write-up!

I wish you the best!

embolism
03-31-2011, 09:58 PM
I don't think 476 will come out of the can like the dodo juice...

kavncool
03-31-2011, 10:20 PM
i will get my DP Max this week, hope this way will be worked...

01GreyStangGT
03-31-2011, 11:34 PM
I think a butter knife is recommended to get the wax out of the can.

jpegs13
03-31-2011, 11:46 PM
For the initial removal of the wax from the container, I place water in a frying pan, place the container in the water for a few seconds then take a butter knife and go around the edge and it pops right out.

WRAPT C5Z06
04-01-2011, 02:11 AM
I don't think 476 will come out of the can like the dodo juice...
You're right, 476 is kinda enclosed in the can. Most paste waxes you can pop out..

john b
04-01-2011, 02:21 AM
Looks like 915 is the same way-damit

MI Mike
04-01-2011, 06:52 AM
Is there any way to apply a paste wax like Collinite 476 with a buffer? I have a 3401XC with some black finishing pads and was wondering if maybe I can apply some of the collinite 476 paste wax onto the pad and use the buffer to apply it?

I have found that using a plastic putty knife works great. Use the putty knife to apply (coat, across) a light amount to the pad and apply. Coat the pad so that you can see it. Thin is in. You will find that you will be able to judge the amount to apply to the pad quickly once you start.

Mike Phillips
04-01-2011, 07:05 AM
For the initial removal of the wax from the container, I place water in a frying pan, place the container in the water for a few seconds then take a butter knife and go around the edge and it pops right out.

A variation of this is to use a hair blow dryer or a heat gun to lightly warm up the outside of the wax jar and then knock the jar against your hand upside down and the wax will usually slide out.

Then clean the inside of the jar out so there's no residual wax clinging to the sides or bottom and then smooth over the chunk that came out and then it will slide in and out easily.

I have a jar of Pinnacle all set-up for this for a project next week.

For those of you that use a PC style polisher, clean the wrench that came with your polisher really well and use the handle which is like a large, flat blade.

:)

A4 1.8tqm
04-01-2011, 07:43 AM
No

Funniest thing since seeing Joe Rogan's Standup last week!

Mmmm, dem good ROFL Waffles! :laughing: