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Sonnie
03-08-2011, 12:08 PM
My wife has an 06 Hyundai Azera that has been greatly neglected over the years. First of all, we live down ¾ mile of dirt road... and it has been through the local car wash (red rubber strips) a few dozen times... and probably has not had a real wash in a year... and it's probably been a couple of years since it saw any wax. I can look at it and tell it has lots of minor scratches and a few pretty serious scratches.

So... if I plan to do this myself, where do I start and what do I use?

I appreciate any recommendations and suggestions.

Thanks!

slickooz
03-08-2011, 12:22 PM
Welcome to AG!

These items should be enough to get you started.

1. DA
2. lc flats 5.5 inch, 3 oj, 2 white, 1 blue
3. 5 inch backing plate
4. Compound M105
5. Polish M205
6. Clay bar
6. two bucket
7. detail spray
8. grit guards
9. car soap
10. APC
11. diff brushes
12. sealant
13. wax

Good luck!:xyxthumbs:

Sonnie
03-08-2011, 12:27 PM
lol... I am not familiar with several of those abbreviations. More detail would be appreciated for someone who is not familiar with the terms.

slickooz
03-08-2011, 12:29 PM
Welcome to AG!

These items should be enough to get you started.

1. DA
2. lc flats 5.5 inch, 3 oj, 2 white, 1 blue
3. 5 inch backing plate
4. Compound M105
5. Polish M205
6. Clay bar
6. two bucket
7. detail spray
8. grit guards
9. car soap
10. APC
11. diff brushes
12. sealant
13. wax

Good luck!:xyxthumbs:

DA= dual action it's a polisher
lc = Lake Country it's a brand, they make very good pads.
Compound get Meguair's 105
Polish get Meguair's 205
APC = all purpose cleaner


If you have any question feel free to ask.

edit.
Forgot to mention get a few high quality microfiber towels for drying car and wiping stuff off like compound/polish/wax/sealant.

SeaJay's
03-08-2011, 12:39 PM
Slick's suggestions are right on if your looking to polish the car and get some of the minor scratches and swirls out.

If your not looking to get into that much detail or spend that much money then I'd suggest getting yourself the following:

two 5 gallon buckets
two grit guards
Some Car Soap
quality wash mitt
Some quality microfiber towels for drying - I recommend the Corbra HD guzzler or a waffle weave
Clay bar
Clay lube - You can use quick detailer or a rinseless wash diluted such as DP rinselss wash or ONR
A durable wax or sealant - Suggest Collinite 845 (wax) (especially if the car will see months in between washes). For a sealant I'd go with Menzerna Power Lock
Some All Purpose Cleaner
And various brushes - such as the daytona wheel brush, lug nut brush, etc.
Also if you want to dress the tires you can pick up some tire dressing. But living on a dirt road the dust may just stick to the tires more with dressing on them.

Hope this helps! Oh and WELCOME!

Sonnie
03-08-2011, 12:40 PM
Thanks!

Is not a backing plate used with a electric powered machine?

What do you mean by "detail spray"?

What are "diff brushes"?

And... are you suggesting that I use the DA first... or is this merely a list of things I need?

slickooz
03-08-2011, 12:44 PM
Thanks!

Is not a backing plate used with a electric powered machine?

What do you mean by "detail spray"?

What are "diff brushes"?

And... are you suggesting that I use the DA first... or is this merely a list of things I need?

Yeah, I would suggest getting a DA which is a machine. It makes life a lot easier. It very versatile, can correct paint and apply wax, even buff wax off.

Detail spray is a lubricant solution to use for claying the car or just touch it up to remove dusting and etc...

Different brushes for wheels/well/tires. Get a boars haired brush, very safe on paint can be used around emblem and tight areas. Get some other brushes for inside to help you get stuff in the cervices in the seats.

SeaJay's
03-08-2011, 12:44 PM
If you purchase a Dual Action polisher such as the Porter Cable 7424XP or Griots DA then yes you will need a backing plate. Such as a 5" then some 5.5" pads for it.

Detail spray is a quick detailer spray. Basically it's a spray that adds in lubing the surface your wiping to ensure no scratches occur from wiping on a dry surface that may have dust on it. Living on a dusty road a quick detailer may be your best friend!

Different brushes - daytona wheel brush, lug nut brush, and other detailing brushes for getting into the nooks and crannies. Such as in panel gaps, behind the gas cap, and with emblems.

He was suggesting a list of things for you to get. It sounds like your fairly new to detailing so I'd suggest checking out some of the articles by Mike Phillips and watching some of his videos on proper wash techniques. And your always welcome to ask questions. The forum is here to help you out weather your an expert or a newbie!

slickooz
03-08-2011, 12:50 PM
He was suggesting a list of things for you to get. It sounds like your fairly new to detailing so I'd suggest checking out some of the articles by Mike Phillips and watching some of his videos on proper wash techniques. And your always welcome to ask questions. The forum is here to help you out weather your an expert or a newbie!

I learned a lot from Mike's videos. I was in the same position as you a few months ago. After watching a lot of videos and reading the forums I learned a lot.

Any questions just feel free to ask, there are plenty of pros here with a lot more experience then me. :dblthumb2:

Sonnie
03-08-2011, 12:53 PM
Ahh... I thought DA was a "dual action" polish of some sort, but you mean an actual machine. Hmmmm. I have always thought those things were very tricky to use, no?

slickooz
03-08-2011, 12:57 PM
Ahh... I thought DA was a "dual action" polish of some sort, but you mean an actual machine. Hmmmm. I have always thought those things were very tricky to use, no?


Sorry to confuse you. DA is a dual action polisher. It is a tool and it will correct swirls and minor scratches much easier then you would by hand. It would takes you days if you were trying to remove all swirls by hand. But with the DA if your trying to achieve show room condition it can take anywhere from 8-15 hours some times more depends how in depth you want to detail your car.:buffing:

Mike Phillips
03-08-2011, 01:00 PM
Hi Sonnie,

I just posted a thread that includes a lot of information that answers your questions...


Products used on Motorhead Garage Episode 1107 (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-car-garage-how-videos/33373-products-used-motorhead-garage-episode-1107-a.html)


Click the link above and then click the link to watch both videos...

The tips, techniques and process used on the TV show will work to remove swirls out of clear coat paints and you can use any quality line of products, in this case I showcased Pinnacle Swirl Remover and Finishing Polish but the technique will work with other swirl mark removers and polishes...


:)

SeaJay's
03-08-2011, 01:00 PM
Ahh... I thought DA was a "dual action" polish of some sort, but you mean an actual machine. Hmmmm. I have always thought those things were very tricky to use, no?

As with any machine there is a slight learning curve. However the DA is a very user friendly machine and it pretty easy to pick up.

slickooz
03-08-2011, 01:03 PM
Yeah DA very friendly. I would suggest maybe practicing on a beater or get a hood from junk yard and practice some technique before you go at your own cars.

It is very hard to peel paint or damage your car with a DA because it not like a rotary with its force rotation.

Mike Phillips
03-08-2011, 01:48 PM
Ahh... I thought DA was a "dual action" polish of some sort, but you mean an actual machine. Hmmmm. I have always thought those things were very tricky to use, no?

Check out this article, it explains everything pretty well...


The DA Polisher is the easiest tool to learn to use and master...

The Free Floating Spindle Assembly - The Story Behind The Story... (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/23995-free-rotating-spindle-assembly-story-behind-story.html)

Excerpt...



Porter Cable 7424XP with the Backing Plate Removed Exposing the
Counterweight and Free Rotating Spindle Assembly
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/794/FreeRotatingSpingleAssembley003.jpg

Close-up
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Yesterday's Trend... Today's Norm...
Today, DA Polishers are the most popular tool among do-it-yourselfers crossing over from working by hand to working by machine. Many Professional Detailers also use the DA Polisher for their follow-up polishing steps after using a rotary buffer to do the major correction work. These tools are the easiest tools to learn how to use and so safe that even my son Rand is able to operate one safely on Nate Truman's 1966 Batmobile Recreation.

Photo courtesy of LacViet Photography
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/715/medium/RandBuffingBatmobile1.jpg


So if you're still working by hand... check out the dual action polisher and see if you're ready to move up to machine polishing.




I could not even begin to count how many people have been through my classes over the years that have learned to use a DA Polisher and some having gone on to become very successful detailers...



To demonstrated how safe the DA style polishers are I turned the Porter Cable 7424XP on the 5.0 speed setting and pressed it against the back of my hand as hard as I could.... results... no pain... no problems...
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Like Larry the Cable says...

I could do this all day...


:D