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Mike Phillips
02-23-2011, 12:40 AM
1972 Challenger - Foam Pads - Meguiar's Microfiber Compound & Polish/Wax - Single Stage Black Paint (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/32959-1972-challenger-foam-pads-meguiar-s-microfiber-compound-polish-wax-single-stage-black-paint.html)

After shooting the features for our new TV show I had some shiny spots on this 1972 Challenger so I needed to finish the car and give it a uniform appearance. This meant removing the swirls.

I read some posts with forum members wondering how the new Compound and Polish/Wax in Meguiar's DA Microfiber System would work with foam pads and also on single stage paint...

Since I had the perfect candidate... here you go...

Before
The first few were taken with my iphone... the others with my Rebel

iPhone Pictures
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1051/1972Challenger003.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1051/1972Challenger005.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1051/1972Challenger006.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1051/1972Challenger007.jpg


The rest of the pictures are all from the Canon Rebel
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1051/1972Challenger008.jpg


Lake Country 5.5" Foam Polishing Pad on Griot's Garage DA Polisher with D300 Compound
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1051/1972Challenger009.jpg


Here you can see black pigment building up on the face of the foam pad...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1051/1972Challenger010.jpg


Fast forward... D301 Polish/Wax drying... I used a Lake Country Crimson Finishing Pad to apply it. Microfiber Gloves and Microfiber Towel ready to go...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1051/1972Challenger011.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1051/1972Challenger012.jpg


Finished Results...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1051/1972Challenger013.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1051/1972Challenger014.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1051/1972Challenger015.jpg


It actually worked very good but black single stage paint is usually the softest paint there is to work on so keep that in context of the pads I used.


:)

kronos
02-23-2011, 01:04 AM
Mike, that is one of the clearest/cleanest reflections I have ever seen!!! Ever!


I definitely want to pick up a 16oz size of that compound.

Kristopher1129
02-23-2011, 01:21 AM
It's always nice when you can see the reflection of things in the background...through the reflection of the paint. Nice work! I would love to get some of those pretty cars you get! You're spoiled Mike! :dblthumb2:

C. Charles Hahn
02-23-2011, 01:41 AM
Woooow. Now I'm regretting that I only ordered 16 oz. of each of the "Double D's" in my pre-order.

Dr Oldz
02-23-2011, 03:32 AM
Looks great, Mike! On the areas that you had to hand polish, did you use the 300/301 and how did you apply if so? And thoughts on hand worked areas if applicable! Thanks

jimmyjam
02-23-2011, 04:15 AM
Once again your Bad a**!!! Great job!!

Matt
02-23-2011, 06:24 AM
wow it's so wet!!!!!

That looks amazing Mike

ironman1982
02-23-2011, 07:14 AM
Wow!!!! Incredible!

BillE
02-23-2011, 07:27 AM
:urtheman:

Speechless...

Bill

Meghan
02-23-2011, 07:53 AM
That car is one sweet ride, I walked by it several times thinking of a quick spin in it!! Paint looks amazing now!

Shawn T.
02-23-2011, 08:01 AM
Dude! That really is one of the most awesome reflections I have ever seen.

Now I am going to have to try this when I buy this stuff.

Spicy McHaggis
02-23-2011, 08:07 AM
Vehicle looks awesome! Glad to see that you are playing with the compounds seperate from the pads. If there is any part of this kit that I will pick up with will be the compound. good work.

Mike Phillips
02-23-2011, 08:12 AM
Took me about 6 hours not including washing the car plus the wheels and tires. The wheels and tires were pretty grungy when it arrived. Nick helped with that, thanks Nick! :xyxthumbs:


This car belongs to my friend Mario who has a number of muscle cars and this one is usually parked outside all the time and sometimes parked at different locations around Stuart with a for sale sign on it. So it's not going to go back into a covered parking area or garage.

When it comes to detailing a car, the first thing most detailing classes or instructors, or polish manufacturers teach people to do is to evaluate the finish to determine what is needed to correct the paint.

What I always teach people is to evaluate the customer and match your services to their needs and wants, in other words, don't put a show car finish on a daily driver grocery getter or on a car that the owner cannot or will not be able to maintain properly. See this article,

A few tips on starting a part-time detailing business (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-make-money-detailing-cars/27827-few-tips-starting-part-time-detailing-business.html)


Knowing this car is not kept under cover and is for sale I didn't aim for a show car finish but instead just a very good finish. It came to us filled with car wash scratches, toweling marks and swirls instilled by a wool pad on a rotary buffer.

It's leaving with about 90% to 95% correction and a very clear, high gloss finish. The paint is incredibly soft, just wiping too hard inflicts scratches, so it's my guestimation that after it leaves here, it will probably be wiped down with spray detailers occasionally and perhaps washed once in a while till a new owner takes possession.

So while all the shallow swirls, scratches and water spots have been removed, there are still some RIDS (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/24045-rids-definition-rids-story-behind-term.html) here and there and that's okay because the thickness of this paint job is suspect.

It was a fun car to buff out, working on single stage paints is so much easier than working on clear coats and of course muscle cars from the 1960's and 1970's don't really have much cursed pebble textured black plastic trim, just beautiful chrome and/or stainless steel trim.

The panels are large and easy to buff out and the only real challenging areas were the read deck spoiler and the scoops and fresh air intake grill on the hood There was already TOGW (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/21283-togw-other-guy-s-wax.html) down inside the fresh air grill, see this article,

Tape it off and avoid a lifetime of ugly... (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/tricks-tips-techniques/29951-tape-off-avoid-lifetime-ugly.html)


Sometime today I'll dress the tires and give the car a final wipe and then call Mario and thank him for letting us use his Challenger for our TV Features and let him know he can come get it anytime.

Then I'll see if he wants to bring his 1969 Camaro in for a little jeweling... I'll post a picture of his Camaro sometime today as it's bad to the bone.


:)

Mike Phillips
02-23-2011, 08:16 AM
Vehicle looks awesome! Glad to see that you are playing with the compounds seperate from the pads. If there is any part of this kit that I will pick up with will be the compound. good work.

The compound, at least in my work environment, has a long long buffing cycle or play time and for the most part very easy wipe-off after applying via foam pads.

The Polish/Wax wipes off as easy as a summer breeze and that's a really nice feature for any product because usually by the time you're done buffing out an entire car you can start to become tired and a wax or sealant that wipes off easy is a real blessing.

:)

Spicy McHaggis
02-23-2011, 08:20 AM
The compound, at least in my work environment, has a long long buffing cycle or play time and for the most part very easy wipe-off after applying via foam pads.

The Polish/Wax wipes off as easy as a summer breeze and that's a really nice feature for any product because usually by the time you're done buffing out an entire car you can start to become tired and a wax or sealant that wipes off easy is a real blessing.

:)
I am looking forward to the compound so I can have something in between 105 and 205. M105 can just be overkill for some projects and SIP can be a pain to deal with sometimes.

As for the polish wax, I really don't feel I have a use for it since I wipe down with IPA after every correction step. therefore I would be negating, or at least hurting the protection part of that product. Also I am very happy with my current finishing polishes PO85, 106fa, and Ultrafina. :xyxthumbs: