Review: Meguiar’s DA Microfiber Polishing System - Hologram removal by Mike Phillips

[Mike Phillips]

Review: Meguiar’s DA Microfiber Polishing System - Hologram removal by Mike Phillips (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/product-reviews/32787-review-meguiar-s-da-microfiber-polishing-system-hologram-removal-mike-phillips.html)



Meguiar’s DA Microfiber Polishing System
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This is my friend Rob's 2006 Mustang GT Convertible. In the right light at the right angle it looks pretty good.

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But under closer inspection the paint is completely filled with rotary buffer swirls also called holograms.

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I want to note that Rob purchased this Mustang from a local dealership with the DISO, or the Dealer Installed Swirl Option already installed at no extra charge.


I used Rob's Mustang to put the new Meguiar's DA Microfiber Correction System to the test.

Here's a few shots taken in the sun. Note how the swirls in the paint closest to the windshield have an almost floating or 3D effect, this is where the term hologram comes from in the context of talking about swirls instilled by a rotary buffer.

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Here's a section of the above photo cropped out and in full size...

Often times you'll hear or read about "Holograms" or "Buffer Trails". These are both interchangeable terms for Rotary Buffer Swirls. If you look at the below swirls they almost seem to have a 3D or floating in the paint affect, this is the appearance characteristic from which we get the word hologram.

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Mustangs are beautiful cars but not when the paint shimmers with swirls... the paint is supposed to shimmer with a swirl-free shine.

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Here's the same car but now we're using the flash from our camera to light up and reveal the horrendous swirls...

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I don't think I've ever seen a car so swirled out by the mis-use of a rotary buffer...

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The zillions of swirls in the clear layer makes the paint look hazy and blocks your view of the black paint under the clear top coat. This reduces the darkness of the paint making the true black look gray.

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In this shot we've actually only buffed out just the passenger side of the hood using just a DA Polisher. After getting some before and after shots we then buffed out the driver's side.

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Here are the end results...

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And here's Rob, the happy owner in his swirl free black Mustang...

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[Mike Phillips]

Continued...



Check out our Video with Jason Rose and Mike Pennington here...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhJYFLgIjhE




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[Transcendent]

i dont understand how someone can call themselves a professional detailer and do this to a car. I use a rotary and i use it often. I learned with one and if i even thought about swirling i was dead LOL. But my Makita and i are best friends and if you use them properly they can be a huge help. But i wont lie i keep the PC close by for swirl removel LOL

[SeaJay's]

Wow those buffer trails were awful! I bet he's glad he knows a great detailer to help him fix it! Car looks awesome now!

[Setec Astronomy]

Mike, does the Finishing Wax actually have any abrasives in it or is the "finishing" action all from the pad? The description on MOL says "Rich blend of polymers, silicones & carnauba for high gloss protection ", nothing about abrasives.

[silverfox]

Incredibly impressive...not only the speed at which this system speeds up the total detail time, and the savings of using LESS product....but the results you can get with a simple DA polisher puts it over the top.

I'm glad I'm not overly invested in pads right now, because as soon as this is available, I'll be going in that direction for sure. I'm sold. Meg's does it again...and the time it took to bring this product to this point will be well rewarded.

This old dog surely can learn new tricks....oh, yeah...

[Mike Moore]

In Your Humble Opinion how does this compare to M105 with Surbuf/LC Orange followed with M205?

A lot of us have been using the 105/205 tried & true PC combo for quite a while with good success?

[Flash Gordon]

Man, that was a one-of-a-kind swirl job there. Nice save Mike :xyxthumbs:


In Your Humble Opinion how does this compare to M105 with Surbuf/LC Orange followed with M205?

A lot of use have been using the 105/205 tried & true PC combo for quite a while with good success?

My question also :dblthumb2:

[C. Charles Hahn]

Watched the video last night, it was nice to see the old gang back together again!

Now I'm just anxiously awaiting the "IN STOCK!" announcement :D

[bova80]

i'd like to know how it comes with the m105/205 combo as well :)

[Shawn T.]

Mike, does the Finishing Wax actually have any abrasives in it or is the "finishing" action all from the pad? The description on MOL says "Rich blend of polymers, silicones & carnauba for high gloss protection ", nothing about abrasives.

Mike Stoops answered a question just like this on MOL and he said that the Finishing Wax does contain a small amount of SMAT.

[RaskyR1]

i'd like to know how it comes with the m105/205 combo as well :)


Other users results may vary, but my findings were as follows...note some paints may yield different results.


On The PCXP speed 5:

-M105 Surbuf will usually cut better than D300 and a MF cutting pad. However, the Surbuf will not finish down as well, it will dust like crazy, and the pads won't last as long.

-M105 orange LC will cut about equal to D300 and the MF cutting pads, though I only tried it on 2 cars I believe. However, you will still have dusting with M105, shorter working time, and it will require ore effort to remove.


D301/M205 is a little apples oranges IMO as D301 also provides some protection as well as correction. In terms of cut I'd say M205 has the edge and it can also finish down a little better depending on paint and pad used.

These are different products with different target markets. I say use the product which is best geared for the job at hand. For those clients only wanting a quick 1-2 step correction job, this new system is the way to go. On moderate to heavy jobs where the owner wants more correction and longer lasting protection I will likely use the D300 and follow with something other than D301. :props:


Hope that helps,
Rasky

[BobbyG]

Nice system and great results! :props:

[Mike Phillips]

***Update***

Rob, the owner of the Mustang in this thread, is a Manager and Fitness Trainer at our local Anytime Fitness Club and a ran into him at the gym on Saturday. I asked him how the paint was holding up on his Mustang and he said good.

Everyone's definition of "good" can be very different so when I left the gym I went over to his car, stood in a way to position the sun on the hood to inspect for swirls and the finish looked pretty good!

There were some very light swirls from normal wear-n-tear, like washing and drying the car but overall it looked pretty good. It's been 9 months since I buffed out his car and he hasn't done anything to the paint except wash and use a spray detailer on it so overall, I think the paint looks pretty good.

Anyway, I told him about these new coatings coming out on the market and invited him to bring his Mustang back over to Autogeek and we'll do a light polishing to remove any current swirls and then apply a coating and see how he likes that....


:)

[CBlack]

As far as correction goes, what depth of scratches and swirls is the DA system good for?