Motorhead Garage - Machine Polishing with Pinnacle - Episode 7

[Dr Oldz]

Love the 50/50 shot of the white hood! VERY NICE!

[mcpp66]

Major bummer.......I went to the site to watch the 2/13 episode and while the link is on the page it's not yet working. Hopefully they fix it soon.

[Mike Phillips]

Major bummer.......I went to the site to watch the 2/13 episode and while the link is on the page it's not yet working. Hopefully they fix it soon.

It's working now...

Look for Series #1107 and then to the left of it you should see


CLICK TO WATCH
(http://www.mastersstorage.com/vault/garage1107.wmv)

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[MonoPed]

Mike,
In the three part videos you did for the Wolfgang Twins on the black Lexus, you made an "X" on the face of the pad with the products, but in this demo, you spread the Pinnacle Twins over the entire face of the pad. Is this because it was a single stage paint, or has this been found to work better for the PC and flat pads?

[Mike Phillips]

Mike,
In the three part videos you did for the Wolfgang Twins on the black Lexus, you made an "X" on the face of the pad with the products, but in this demo, you spread the Pinnacle Twins over the entire face of the pad. Is this because it was a single stage paint, or has this been found to work better for the PC and flat pads?


Showing the X-Pattern or the Circle-Pattern was a carry-over from the years of teaching classes at Meguiar's at their Corporate office in Irvine, California as that's the "protocol" we used at that time. I taught thousands of people how to use a G100 aka the PC to remove swirls and create a show car finish and all these people successfully did so using an X-pattern or a Circle Pattern. Meguiar's has been educating people how to polish paint as long as anybody and actually longer than most and they've been pretty successful at it using the circle or x-pattern for decades considering they introduced the world to the Porter Cable polisher for machine polishing paint.

To be frank, if you make a circle pattern or an x-pattern and buff a section, after a few passes the product spreads out and 100% of the face of the pad becomes wet with product and even more important... at that point 100% of the face of the pad is for sure working for you.

Priming the pad first just, key word, "ensures" that 100% of the pad starts working for you from the very first Nano-second you place the face of the pad against the paint and then turn on the switch.

Priming the pad is now a method being used and shown by Meguiar's as a part of their new DA Microfiber Polishing System.

The idea makes sense for any type of pad or product so it's now the way I show people no matter what the environment, be it in a class, one-on-one or on TV show or a how-to video.

It takes little longer to do since you have to spread the product out with your finger and then wipe your finger off versus just laying a strip of product onto the face of the pad setting your product bottle down and then going to work.

If you ever have a chance to make videos or show machine polishing on TV, (or any kind of TV work), you'll find out REAL FAST that EVERYTHING is timed to the second. As in minutes and SECONDS, so little things are a big deal and I hope when you watch the portion where I spread the product out over the face of the pad that you'll note I did it very quickly but still did a good job.

Last Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday we were shooting brand new segments for our TV show and the Director has a stop watch around his neck and times everything.


Great question!

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[MonoPed]

Thanks, Mike!

[Mike Phillips]

How to use a DA Polisher to Remover Oxidation

The technique used for applying the Pinnacle Advanced Swirl Remover and the Pinnacle Advanced Finishing Polish is called doing a Section Pass, see this video...

Show Car Garage Video: How-To do a "Section Pass" when Machine Polishing with a DA Polisher (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-videos/24074-video-how-do-section-pass-when-machine-buffing.html)


Here's how to do a "Section Pass" when trying to remove swirls, scratches and other below surface paint defects.


How to do a Section Pass

- How to do a "Section Pass" with a Porter Cable 7424XP



When talking about machine polishing on discussion forums or even in detailing classes, the below questions always comes up,


What's a pass?
How many passes do I make?
What's a section pass?


The definition of a pass
There are two definitions of the word pass as it relates to machine polishing with any type of machine.


Single Pass
A single pass is just that. It's when you move the polisher from one side of the section you're buffing to the other side of the section you're buffing. That's a single pass.


Section Pass
A section pass is when you move the polisher back and forth, or front to back with enough single overlapping passes to cover the entire section one time. That's a section pass.

In most cases if you're removing any substantial below surface defects you're going to make 6-8 section passes to the section you’re working before you either feel comfortable you've removed the defects or you're at the end of the buffing cycle for the product you're using.


Buffing Cycle
The buffing cycle is the amount of time you are able to work the product before the abrasives have broken down, (if you’re using a product that uses diminishing abrasives), and/or the product begins to dry and you lose the lubricating features of the product. Different products have different buffing cycles depending upon the type of abrasives used in the formula and the different ingredients used to suspend the abrasives and provide lubrication.



Factors that affect the buffing cycle include,

Ambient temperature
Surface temperature
Size of work area
Type of machine
Type of pad material
Humidity
Wind or air flow surrounding the car
Amount of product used
Technique


Wet buffing technique
Most compounds and polishes should be used so that there is enough product on the surface to maintain a wet film while the product is being worked. The wetness of the product is lubricating the paint as the abrasives abrade the paint and cushion or buffer the abrading action so the abrasives don’t simply scour the finish leaving behind swirls and scratches.


Dry Buffing Technique - Buffing to a dry buff
There are some products on the market where the manufacture recommends buffing the product until it dries. As the product dries you’ll tend to see some dusting as the product residue becomes a powder and the paint will have a hard, dry shine to it.

Although some manufactures recommend this, it’s important to understand what’s taking place at the surface level as you buff to a dry buff. As the product dries, in essence you are losing the lubricating features of the product and as this happens friction and heat will increase. As friction and heat increases, so does the risk of micro-marring the paint or instilling swirls either by the product residue or the pad material and/or a combination of both.

While we trust that the manufacture knows their products best, when we take a close look at what it means to buff on a delicate surface like an automotive clear coat, it doesn’t make sense to run a buffing pad on top of the paint without some kind of wet film to lubricate the paint at the same time. We always recommend that you follow the manufacturer's recommendations and use your own judgment.

Everyone new to buffing wants to be told some easily identifiable sign that they can use to tell when it's time to stop buffing and it's not that simple, so here's an indicator I've always used and taught to others,

Wet film behind your path-of-travel
As you're making a single pass with the polisher, the paint behind the path of travel of the buffer should have a visible wet film on it. If the paint behind the pad is dry and shiny, you've run out of lubrication and you're dry buffing. Turn the polisher off. Wipe the residue off and inspect using a Swirl Finder Light to make sure you didn't dull or mar the paint, you usually won't cause any harm, but pay attention when your running the polisher and don't buff to a dry buff. If you do, you can quickly re-polish that section by cleaning your pad and adding a little fresh product and making a few new section passes.


UMR
Remember, in most cases the goal is UMR or Uniform Material Removal. The reason for this is so that you remove an equal amount of paint over each section and in turn over the entire car. In order to do this you need a method that you can control and duplicate and for most people following a back and forth, side-to-side pattern works because it’s easy to remember, easy to do and easy to duplicate.


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[Mike Phillips]

In April there will be 3 new "How-To" segments airing on TV and we'll announce these as the dates get closer.

1964 GTO Convertible...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/715/projectx001.jpg



And a classic, 1955 Chevy Pickup...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/715/medium/projectx002.jpg


Part of the job...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/715/medium/projectx003.jpg


:xyxthumbs:

[Mike Phillips]

Here's a recent thread on Microfiber Gloves...

Increase Your Grip Strength with Microfiber Gloves (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/tricks-tips-techniques/33009-increase-your-grip-strength-microfiber-gloves.html)


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[Barry Theal]

Mike what are these people doing to you? OH know make up to detail cars. That 55 chevy pick up really looks like a fun task. Have fun with it.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/715/medium/projectx003.jpg

[Mike Phillips]

Mike what are these people doing to you? OH know make up to detail cars. That 55 chevy pick up really looks like a fun task. Have fun with it.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/715/medium/projectx003.jpg



To date, none of the other TV studio sets I've worked on have air conditioning and most of the shoots have been during warm or hot weather, so with the extra lights on the set it gets pretty hot. On this show, Sheila was our make-up artist and she just makes sure the host and all his guest are ready to go before filming their segments.

Max had air-conditioning installed for our studio and we can crank the temperature down to 68 degrees if we want and I can't tell you how nice that is compared to these other studios. I know when Matt Steele was here he appreciated it and so did the Camera Crew, Director, Engineer and Producer from Masters TV.

On Two Guys Garage they also have a Make-up Artist that takes care of Bryan Fuller and Kevin Byrd and their guests.

It's just part of the job...


I'm going to post a thread about this new TV show today...


Motorhead Garage Studio
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/901/MotorheadLokar003.jpg

Two Guys Garage Studio
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/715/MattSteeleCom001.jpg



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[Mike Phillips]

***Update***


Added the video from this TV show to the first post on the first page of this thread.




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